Cycling Dan
Cycle Crazy
I totally agree. Cyclists are the black people of the USA during the 20-60's
Cyclist Abuse
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Sheffield_Tiger
Legendary Member
I think that is understating the race issue ever so slightly....
I think the important thing is this: While we all get abuse, car drivers give other drivers abuse as well, and for the most part it isn't all the time - it's only every so often. It's not worth dwelling over (unless you report it to the Police) and 99% of people won't actually hit you if they're all "Come on then, dickhead".
Lanzecki
Über Member
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- A Boreen, Ireland
Maybe over stated. I've never see cyclists being beaten by raving mobs. Maybe you know better?
Cycling Dan
Cycle Crazy
I didnt say the violence was the same but the situation is the same. They are equal but drivers see them as inferior. There was alot more to civil rights than just violence and mobs
There are plenty of examples of violence anyhow.
im studying it for history aswell. A2 level
All about King and civil rights movement.(shockingly alot of the violence provoked by the blacks and King)
Andrew_P
In between here and there
I think the point CD is trying to make is that it is socially accepable to spew abuse towards cyclists, hell the Radio shows can fill hours with it.
By allowing it to be socially acceptable it follows that it is good fun to close pass and bully cyclists, then follow through with some nicely choosen and well practiced verbal abuse.
By allowing it to be socially acceptable it follows that it is good fun to close pass and bully cyclists, then follow through with some nicely choosen and well practiced verbal abuse.
Hip Priest
Veteran
In terms of geniune, obvious malice, I've had:
1) A can of Strongbow thrown at me
2) An oncoming car come over to my side of the road to scare me
3) And a bloke shout 'Get off the road you daft c---'
But on the other hand, I have more positive interactions with motorists than I could possibly count. I don't think it's accurate to compare cyclist-abuse to the racism in the US in the 20s. In fact, if I was easily offended, I'd be offended by that.
1) A can of Strongbow thrown at me
2) An oncoming car come over to my side of the road to scare me
3) And a bloke shout 'Get off the road you daft c---'
But on the other hand, I have more positive interactions with motorists than I could possibly count. I don't think it's accurate to compare cyclist-abuse to the racism in the US in the 20s. In fact, if I was easily offended, I'd be offended by that.
It's already an offence:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents
Aside from those who throw things out of car windows, which is seriously illegal, it is an offence to shout abuse at someone. It's the catching and prosecution that's the bugger.
Cycling Dan
Cycle Crazy
what he was saying,since its cyclists they don't care. If i was to call a black person a "nigger" on twitter for example. I would have the old bill round mine for some tea the next morning.
Hip Priest
Veteran
Are you saying you'd like the police to get involved when someone insults a cyclist on the internet?
Lanzecki
Über Member
- Location
- A Boreen, Ireland
This is cycling, not race/gender/sexuality. Comparing cycling to the way non-whites were treated between the 20 and the 60's (where there were massive changes) is not comparable without ignoring some pretty major things that happened.
Chalk and cheese.
Cycling is a lifestyle choice or a way to get fit. Once I'm off my bike and in non-cycling clothes no one's going to know I'm a cyclist. I've never been made to sit at the back of a bus because I'm a cyclist. I had as much chance in education as non-cyclist children of the same age.
I do understand your point of view. But it's ignoring many things that happened.
Chalk and cheese.
Cycling is a lifestyle choice or a way to get fit. Once I'm off my bike and in non-cycling clothes no one's going to know I'm a cyclist. I've never been made to sit at the back of a bus because I'm a cyclist. I had as much chance in education as non-cyclist children of the same age.
I do understand your point of view. But it's ignoring many things that happened.
Cycling Dan
Cycle Crazy
height works for me aswell, 6 foot 2inches quite towering.
J.Primus
Senior Member
- Location
- Northerner living in London
I find being sub 6 foot but very wide does the trick as well. As a result the only time I've got any abuse from a driver it tends to be women as they (correctly) assume I won't clump them if they pull over.
