http://news.scotsman.com/topstories/Cyclist-badly-injured-after-.3939969.jp
I hope it's nobody we know and that he makes a full recovery.
I hope it's nobody we know and that he makes a full recovery.
Cyclist injured in Edinburgh today
- Thread starter Kirst
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HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
I hope he makes a full recovery too.
goo_mason
Champion barbed-wire hurdler
- Location
- Leith, Edinburgh
On part of my route, but I'm much earlier than that.
Hope whoever it was is OK.
Hope whoever it was is OK.
HJ
Cycling in Scotland
- Location
- Auld Reekie
Another driver pulling out with out looking, when will they ever learn...
goo_mason
Champion barbed-wire hurdler
- Location
- Leith, Edinburgh
Hairy Jock said:
Is that definitely what happened ? The press and media have been very quiet about it.
He's been moved to the Western General now for specialist treatment on a 'neck injury', I see. Poor sod.
, also known as a SMIDSYdomtyler said:
1. Apparantly its a light controlled junction
2. we had the report yesterday of a cyclist dying after riding into a stationary vehicle
3. we're looking at 3rd hand media reports (had a "cyclist killed" near me recently who didn't even have a bike!)
Jurys still out Dom...
Hairy Jock said:
I think everyone is being a bit harsh on the driver considering we don't know the facts. I know that junction very well and it's controlled by lights from every exit with plenty time between red and green phases. To be honest a much more likely statement would be "Another uneducated red light jumping cyclist, when will they ever learn..."
Whatever happened I wish the injured well.
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
kyuss said:
You could well be right, but I suspect not. Given that in one study of bicycle vs motor vehicle collisions, cyclists were found to be to blame only 17% of the time, it's much more likely it's the driver to blame.
Terminator
New Member
Bent Mikey is Mr Statto.
domtyler
Über Member
Unfortunately it's not exactly a rare occurrence to have some dim witted fucker who's too busy chatting to his mate on his mobile or surfing the web on his PDA to bother looking for anything smaller than an X5 pull out on us is it?
In light of this fact I will not be apologising or retracting my earlier comments. Give me facts that show otherwise and I'll rethink.
In light of this fact I will not be apologising or retracting my earlier comments. Give me facts that show otherwise and I'll rethink.
I know this junction well, it is on my daily commute. I approach the junction the same way that the cyclist was, but I turn left instead of going straight on. On my way home, I take the same turn that the car took.
The sequence of the green traffic lights is:
1. Traffic heading both ways on Roseburn Terrace.
2. Traffic heading west on Roseburn Terrace is stopped, filter arrow for traffic on Roseburn Terrace heading east to turn into Roseburn Street/Russell Road.
3. Traffic on Roseburn Street.
Visibility is pretty poor as you approach the junction in the direction that the cyclist took. The building on the left is close to the pavement, giving you very little warning of what is coming round the corner from Roseburn Street. The road is also downhill and you can pick up a bit of speed approaching the junction.
The stop line for the lights on Roseburn Street is about 20m back from the junction, which means that it takes a little bit longer for cars to clear the junction after crossing the stop line.
The junction on Roseburn Street with Russell Road is right next to the stop line, and often causes problems with cars trying to turn right into Roseburn Street and then left or right into Roseburn Terrace as they try to merge with traffic queuing at the lights. This often leads to impatient drivers amber gambling. I think the right turn from Russell Road into Roseburn Street shouldn't be allowed.
Knowing the junction well, I suspect that both the cyclist and the car driver gambled on the changing of the lights.
The junction on Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=55.945304,-3.23358&spn=0.001208,0.001902&t=h&z=19
Will
The sequence of the green traffic lights is:
1. Traffic heading both ways on Roseburn Terrace.
2. Traffic heading west on Roseburn Terrace is stopped, filter arrow for traffic on Roseburn Terrace heading east to turn into Roseburn Street/Russell Road.
3. Traffic on Roseburn Street.
Visibility is pretty poor as you approach the junction in the direction that the cyclist took. The building on the left is close to the pavement, giving you very little warning of what is coming round the corner from Roseburn Street. The road is also downhill and you can pick up a bit of speed approaching the junction.
The stop line for the lights on Roseburn Street is about 20m back from the junction, which means that it takes a little bit longer for cars to clear the junction after crossing the stop line.
The junction on Roseburn Street with Russell Road is right next to the stop line, and often causes problems with cars trying to turn right into Roseburn Street and then left or right into Roseburn Terrace as they try to merge with traffic queuing at the lights. This often leads to impatient drivers amber gambling. I think the right turn from Russell Road into Roseburn Street shouldn't be allowed.
Knowing the junction well, I suspect that both the cyclist and the car driver gambled on the changing of the lights.
The junction on Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=55.945304,-3.23358&spn=0.001208,0.001902&t=h&z=19
Will
