Cyclist told to dismount by police [warning, contains mild annoyance]

[PaulSecteur]

Its hard to judge from camera footage, but even before you got to the PC I was thinking your going a bit too fast for the environment.

Lots of parked vehicles creating blind spots for peds to lurch from, and the wet brick floor looks slippery to be making emergency breaking or manoeuvers on.

 

[PaulSecteur]

I think it's just a video of a cyclist off YouTube, it's not actually the OP.

Apologies to the OP.

Whoever it was, I still think they were a bit too fast for the situation.

 

[Tin Pot]

Apologies to the OP.

Whoever it was, I still think they were a bit too fast for the situation.

Which isn't why he was stopped.

 

[winjim]

Which isn't why he was stopped.

Well it sort of was, retrospectively, once the back-pedalling started.

 

[Tin Pot]

Well it sort of was, retrospectively, once the back-pedalling started.

Lol.

Eventually they'll find something wrong... given enough time!

 

[swansonj]

Actually I think it's in their training to be seen to be obeyed and respected. It's certainly how they behave.

Tell anyone in uniform they are wrong, and there no way they'll accept it.

They see any sort of resistance as confrontation, and rather let it slide they persist until you break, or they think they have enough to arrest.

And, to be fair, there are times when it is a pretty importent skill for an officer to be able to dominate another person by the force of his or her personality and to be able to procure obedience without resorting to force. I want that skill to be part of their training- but preferably combined with the skill of knowing enough about the law to restrain the resulting tendency to dominate people and procure obedience for the sake of it.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

[QUOTE 3400910, member: 9609"]Are you allowed to cycle there or not ? who was in the right?[/QUOTE]
John Lewis is in Broad Street, the council cycling map puts the copper in the right. Council maps are not always accurate, road signage is generally very poor, but there is at least some indication that the law enforcement was no more arbitrary than the council's road restrictions led him to be.

 

[MontyVeda]

I'm not sure who comes across as more of a berk, the policeman or the cyclist

IMO, it's the constable... 100%

 

[winjim]

John Lewis is in Broad Street, the council cycling map puts the copper in the right. Council maps are not always accurate, road signage is generally very poor, but there is at least some indication that the law enforcement was no more arbitrary than the council's road restrictions led him to be.

Cyclist is going along Queen Victoria St, left at Broad St along to Prudential on King's Rd. All marked as cycle routes on that map. The copper even admits that the no cycling is to the right.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Cyclist is going along Queen Victoria St, left at Broad St along to Prudential on King's Rd. All marked as cycle routes on that map. The copper even admits that the no cycling is to the right.

Ah, thanks. I thought JL was at a different junction. A little local knowledge, eh! So it's actually a ''Town Centre Route'' on the cycling map.

 

[winjim]

Ah, thanks. I thought JL was at a different junction. A little local knowledge, eh! So it's actually a ''Town Centre Route'' on the cycling map.

I think JL is pretty massive, so might span several junctions.

 

[User269]

Classic psychology (intersexual selection for example); man shows off in front of woman.

 

[Pale Rider]

My guess is the 'policeman' was told to enforce the no cycling part of Broad Street, which he may have just walked through.

He stopped the cyclist not realising he was now in a cycling permitted zone, made the remark, and didn't have the nous to go back on it.

 

[MontyVeda]

Classic psychology (intersexual selection for example); man shows off in front of woman.

Yup... I guess he's a proper copper and mentor to the PCSO, who's getting first hand experience in how to act like a c*ck.

 

[Sara_H]

Quite a depressing demonstration of the kinds of attitudes cyclists are up against.
The copper here couldn't see the stupidity of telling a cyclist to dismount and walk as lorries trundled through the exact same space.
I despair.