Cyclists without lights....

[4F]

Be careful about legal as well. How many out there are riding clipless sans reflectors? All got our rear reflectors?

I am not required by law to have reflectors on my pedals

 

[Maz]

Be careful about legal as well. How many out there are riding clipless sans reflectors? All got our rear reflectors?

I think it's only bikes made after 1985 (?) that require pedal reflectors. It's bizarre, whatever the rule is.

My very old and very stationary exercise bike has pedal reflectors on it!!

 

[BentMikey]

I have front and rear reflectors as well as lights.

BM says they don't work.

That's rather a distorted misquote, and is nothing like what I actually said. Tut tut!!!

 

[dondare]

Cyclists do get caught without lights sometimes, and it's especially at this time of year when it's light when you leave work and dark by the time you get home. That's understandable, what isn't is a deliberate refusal to use lights or a defence of riding unlit. Certainly motorists should drive a lot more carefully in the dark but the corpses of badges &c. shows us that they don't.
Stealth cyclists even pose a danger to pedestrians, (those who bother to look before crossing the road).

 

[dondare]

Who or what is BM?

Big Momma?

 

[dondare]

That'd be BentMikey, a user on here.

Ah... that BM.

IIRC BM says pedal reflectors don't work on 'bents.

 

[Tynan]

given the size and cost of modern lights there's no excuse for being 'caught without lights'

would you accept that as an excsue froma car after dark with no working lights?

 

[jonathan ellis]

After having had some beer. I can state that it's statisically safer to cycle at night.

 

[hackbike 6]

That's rather a distorted misquote, and is nothing like what I actually said. Tut tut!!!

Joking.

 

[Plax]

I was horrified tonight by a cyclist with no lights. I'm used to seeing ninja bikers in Bangor (quite often also on the pavement), which is well lit so they are still visable enough. Tonight however, driving home from Tesco along a 60mph B road which is unlit, so very dark, guess what I catch a glimpse of - yep the silhouette of a cyclist in dark clothing and no lights. The car coming up behind him nearly hit the stupid sod. I was very surprised to see such stupidity along that road. I've cycled along there in the dark and how on earth he managed to see anything when there was no cars is beyond me. I have a 10w and a 5w light and it was bad enough!

 

[BentMikey]

22,000 accident free miles is only a sign of how safe cycling is, and says very little about anyone's skills either way. You keep saying how excellent a rider you are, and yet you refuse to be filmed, and you keep telling us things that indicate you're not a good rider, at least that's my perception.

 

[hackbike 6]

Can't agree with your safe stance on cycling mikey.If there were no vehicles cyclists and peds then all we would have to contend with is falling off for whatever reason.Mechanical failure,weather conditions,mistakes due to tiredness.More than once i've had to rely on instinct and not panicking in dodgy situations.

 

[BentMikey]

But good riding skill will, which I have in spades.

I know my road space I'm excellent at reading the road and what other drivers do.

You aspire to "ride like a messenger", and I wouldn't be able to keep up. 2 months away, and you don't have time for a ride when I've offered to come across to your area and am flexible on when?

*walks away chuckling*

 

[hackbike 6]

Im from an opposite universe.Im lit up like a christmas tree.BM would a fenix be any good for changing traffic lights as they don't 'see' my lights on early morning commutes.

 

[tdr1nka]

Lee I think you mean riding without lights makes you a 'far better nuicance', to other road users at least.

I have lights because I'd rather another road user had some indication of my approach rather than making them jump and possibly react/drive in a way that could endanger everyone involved.

Being able to read traffic keenly should be possible with or without lights, your agument is very sloppy.

You are making a separate rule for yourself and so far have been very lucky IMO. Good luck to you.