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[Rezillo]

There aren't that many common food poisoning conditions that cause you to feel ill within an hour or so of eating, and those that do tend to be toxin-related, resulting in vomiting rather than diarrhoea.

Diarrhoea and vomiting where you feel like the world's ending but which resolves in around 48 hours sounds more like norovirus - if so, you can blame being in the proximity of someone or something infective around 24 to 48 hours before feeling ill. It can be foodborne but airborne norovirus aerosols are incredibly infective and you could pick it up in any communal environment, including shops. People will be infectious for several hours before feeling ill so a source can be walking around next to you.

If it's something more serious, like salmonella, then your GP can arrange for some testing to confirm this. However, if it is this then it takes at least eight hours and often longer, to start feeling unwell so it is unlikely to be from the meal out.

I wouldn't get too hung up on who ate what with just one case of illness. Bugs don't behave in such absolute ways!

 

[Deleted member 1258]

There aren't that many common food poisoning conditions that cause you to feel ill within an hour or so of eating, and those that do tend to be toxin-related, resulting in vomiting rather than diarrhoea.

Diarrhoea and vomiting where you feel like the world's ending but which resolves in around 48 hours sounds more like norovirus - if so, you can blame being in the proximity of someone or something infective around 24 to 48 hours before feeling ill. It can be foodborne but airborne norovirus aerosols are incredibly infective and you could pick it up in any communal environment, including shops. People will be infectious for several hours before feeling ill so a source can be walking around next to you.

If it's something more serious, like salmonella, then your GP can arrange for some testing to confirm this. However, if it is this then it takes at least eight hours and often longer, to start feeling unwell so it is unlikely to be from the meal out.

I wouldn't get too hung up on who ate what with just one case of illness. Bugs don't behave in such absolute ways!

That's interesting, wife had a hospital appointment earlier in the week and she wasn't a hundred percent for a couple of days after the appointment, and they have got problems with norovirus in the hospital. The thing seems to have run its course now, and though I am not right I am a lot better and improving all the time. I shall have to find out more about this norovirus.

 

[Globalti]

Novovirus makes you feel grotty for three to five days and sometimes you can be sick, sometimes not. Whenever I've had it, it's been from cleaning up after my son when he's been sick.

I've seen acute food poisoning within 10 minutes of somebody eating bad shellfish - she forced open a couple of closed mussels and within 10 minutes was bright red, sweating profusely and barfing up fit to bust.

 

[Rezillo]

Those are typical symptoms of free histamine reaction, although I haven't seen it from mussels. It's a chemical by-product of bacterial growth and normally but not exclusively affects scrombroid fish - tuna and the like. Basically, off fish!

For norovirus, symptoms normally stop in 48 hours and you will be weak for a day or two afterwards. I've interviewed many people who had hardly any symptoms at all but were discovered as a result of contact testing of symptomatic cases.

John

 

[meenaghman]

>> 've seen acute food poisoning within 10 minutes of somebody eating bad shellfish - she forced open a couple of closed mussels and within 10 minutes was bright red, sweating profusely and barfing up fit to bust. >>

for what its worth closed mussels are safe to eat. There seems to be a general myth that one shouldn't eat them.. in fact they're prob. safer as the fact is one should check that mussels close up before cooking them...
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/independent/2008/10/eat-mussels--a.html

 

[Deleted member 1258]

Those are typical symptoms of free histamine reaction, although I haven't seen it from mussels. It's a chemical by-product of bacterial growth and normally but not exclusively affects scrombroid fish - tuna and the like. Basically, off fish!

For norovirus, symptoms normally stop in 48 hours and you will be weak for a day or two afterwards. I've interviewed many people who had hardly any symptoms at all but were discovered as a result of contact testing of symptomatic cases.

John

Rezillo, you and meenaghman seem to know what you are talking about, thanks for all the information. Me I am still a bit rough, the effort of cycling home from work just now made me want to chuck up , the missess has just come in and she recons I look like something the cat dragged out of the cemetery. But there's been no chucking or squirting since Sunday morning so I recon its just the aftermath that I have to get through. Its just a shame I am not in permanent work, if I had been I would be off for the next week.

 

[Globalti]

Maybe it was the other way round then. Whatever. She wasn't half sick!

 

[Twenty Inch]

What Rezillo said. I once raised hell in the canteen at work because I had got food poisoning off a chicken sandwich, but in fact it was norovirus or something very similar, I subsequently discovered. Very nasty, got up in the middle of the night to pee, fell over when I stood up, and ended up vomiting into my t-shirt as I tried to crawl to the loo. Wiped out, like you, for a couple of days. Hope you feel better now.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

What Rezillo said. I once raised hell in the canteen at work because I had got food poisoning off a chicken sandwich, but in fact it was norovirus or something very similar, I subsequently discovered. Very nasty, got up in the middle of the night to pee, fell over when I stood up, and ended up vomiting into my t-shirt as I tried to crawl to the loo. Wiped out, like you, for a couple of days. Hope you feel better now.

Thanks Twenty Inch, yes much better now, just very tired. Still got the bug in the house though, the sons fiancée has it now, there's only the lad left and it will have gone right through.