Dareen Brown: Which do we belive?e

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Mr Pig

New Member
Over The Hill said:
It is interesting to see a lot of posts talking about him predicting the lottery. He did not do that.
He did not reveal the numbers before the call and then spent about a minute wasting time writing them down on a big board.

Exactly. Had he reviled the numbers before the draw you could sensibly talk about him predicting the lottery but that's not what he did. And to be frank, had he actually been able to do it there is no way on earth he would've failed to do it.

I found his explanation of the 'prediction' process baffling. Even if my some deep maths process one could predict which number was likely to come up next, as the selection process is random there is no way to guarantee that this number will come up. And get all all five correct? I'm sorry but it's just ridiculous and you'd need to be pretty gullible to take that in.
 

bonj2

Guest
I think all derren brown's "tricks" are an absolute load of bollocks.
I was having an argument with my mate yesterday about, he reckons Derren Brown would be able to "neurolinguistically program" me, I was saying no he couldn't. Apparently it's appealing to your subconscious, and you might, say, be able to do something like put ideas in my mind to make me more likely to pick a certain number, but he wouldn't be able to get me to do something completely outrageous, like, go and jump headfirst into a hedge.
Even if he did have the ability to subconsciously 'make' me do something relatively pointless make me say one number that he's predicted i would say, and he guessed what number i was going to say, i might think what number and then choose a different one to trick him.

I dont' think i could possibly be hypnotised, even by the best hypnotist. I reckon you've got to WANT to be hypnotised, in order for it to work..

Lottery numbers - absolute bladderdash. If he could predict them why didn't he enter, and win :smile: Did he win millions, and is now going to give it to charity? no.
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
bonj said:
I think all derren brown's "tricks" are an absolute load of bollocks.
I was having an argument with my mate yesterday about, he reckons Derren Brown would be able to "neurolinguistically program" me, I was saying no he couldn't. Apparently it's appealing to your subconscious, and you might, say, be able to do something like put ideas in my mind to make me more likely to pick a certain number, but he wouldn't be able to get me to do something completely outrageous, like, go and jump headfirst into a hedge.
Even if he did have the ability to subconsciously 'make' me do something relatively pointless make me say one number that he's predicted i would say, and he guessed what number i was going to say, i might think what number and then choose a different one to trick him.

I dont' think i could possibly be hypnotised, even by the best hypnotist. I reckon you've got to WANT to be hypnotised, in order for it to work..

Lottery numbers - absolute bladderdash. If he could predict them why didn't he enter, and win :smile: Did he win millions, and is now going to give it to charity? no.

No, hes been clever, hes told his mate, who put the numbers on for him, his mate has now won the lottery(or will predict the lottery some other time) and they are going to split the money.
 

bonj2

Guest
Joe24 said:
No, hes been clever, hes told his mate, who put the numbers on for him, his mate has now won the lottery(or will predict the lottery some other time) and they are going to split the money.

the point is though that the lottery numbers have no relationship with what the previous lottery numbers were, or the average of what people might guess them to be, or 'deep maths', or anything else for that matter. Equal-weight balls coming out of a machine is one of the few things that is truly random. (Computers for instance cannot achieve true randomness, they can only emulate it).
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
bonj said:
the point is though that the lottery numbers have no relationship with what the previous lottery numbers were, or the average of what people might guess them to be, or 'deep maths', or anything else for that matter. Equal-weight balls coming out of a machine is one of the few things that is truly random. (Computers for instance cannot achieve true randomness, they can only emulate it).

Magnets.
Ive already said it
Some dont seem to beleive me
But i AM talking FACT

FACT
 

bonj2

Guest
they don't use magnets! :smile: you with your conspiracy theories - you'll be banging on about the illuminati and the queen being a lizard and what not next :biggrin:
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
bonj said:
they don't use magnets! :smile: you with your conspiracy theories - you'll be banging on about the illuminati and the queen being a lizard and what not next :biggrin:

Queen Elizardbeth 2nd you fool!
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
bonj said:
they don't use magnets! :biggrin: you with your conspiracy theories - you'll be banging on about the illuminati and the queen being a lizard and what not next :biggrin:

Bonj, its happening, what im saying is real shoot. If you dont beleive me, then your a fool.
Just wait for the next tricks, all he is doing is outing what the BBC is doing to con money from people!
:smile:
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Have to say, I'm a big fan of Mr Brine, but I was distinctly let down by his 'explanation'.

User's "He's claiming that his prediction was based on the idea that taking an average of a large number of people's guess of the weight of a cow will bring an accurate result.

Trouble is, when you guess the weight of a cow you've got the thing in front of you and have something to work from.

The lotto numbers are completely random, so the average of a number of guesses will be equally as random. And the same system doesn't work." seems watertight.

I still have no idea how he did it, but he clearly didn't do it the way he said he did.

I think on balance he probably is a witch and it would be best to burn him.
 

Wolf04

New Member
Location
Wallsend on Tyne
seemed to me that the actual on screen prediction was just misdirection like magicians have been doing for years. The clever bit was the so called explanation. Why such a small number? How did he convince them that they had predicted the numbers when it's an impossible task 14 million to 1. Hypnotism is unlikey on 24 people at the same time so I guess just more misdirection.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
[quote name='swee'pea99']I still have no idea how he did it[/quote]
I explained how he did it early in the thread.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Ben Lovejoy said:
I explained how he did it early in the thread.
Well, you gave us your theory on how it was done, which isn't quite the same thing.

I still subscribe to the witch theory myself.
 
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