Deliberately ran into. Twice!

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Norm

Guest
What would YOU do here?
I'm not sure that you want to know what I'd do, as I'd probably do the same as a few others have said they would do and that seems to have got you a tad emotional, Paul.

Why did you ask to know what others would do if you put barriers up and get aggressive rather than considering their response?

Getting back to Mark's initial reply on this thread...
...might be worth considering to help avoid similar situations in the future....
... do you want to avoid similar situations or do you just want us to say "yeah, hang the driver by his balls" no matter what could be learned from it?
 

Brains

Legendary Member
Location
Greenwich
You should be able to confirm it's the same car eventually.
If you have marks on your bike then he will have marks on the car.

The Police may be one option

'Assulting' the car may well be another
Best options are small but expensive damage.

Sugar in the tank
Let down one tyre (not more), then let down the same tyre several times
A sharp screwdriver in the side wall of a tyre will knacker the tyre. Once it is replaced, do the same again to the same tyre.
Its amazing how easy it is to break a rear light
Remove and item such as the rear bumper off the car
Key all the panels
Write a word of your choice across the car in either dulux or oven cleaner
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Paul - after you left us on the forum ride today, some twunt swerved at Shaun (bromptonfb) and got so close that the back end of the car actually made contact with his knee! We think it was because the driver was upset at us riding two abreast. Fortunately Shaun wasn't hurt but he made his feelings very clear!

Other drivers had been managing to get by perfectly safely but this idiot decided to do a violent swerve to the left just after passing me. I wondered whether it was merely idiotic driving but Shaun and Potsy said that the guy was sticking two fingers up at them as he did it so it was clearly deliberate.

People - Let's be careful out there!
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
Yeah, right, it was entirely my fault, obviously. I really love the sympathy coming from some fellow cyclists. I particularly love the 'examine every element of the incident to ensure you put yourself in the blame chair.' It works wonders for me, that.

Did I say it was your fault? Er, no, is the answer to that one. But I am still interested in why you thought it was a good idea to stick yourself next to a car whose driver had already demonstrated a complete lack of awareness of your presence or concern for your safety. I certainly sympathise with you for the incident - which wasn't your fault - but I am interested in why you didn't just hang back and keep out of his way. THis is a genuine question, I'm not having a go at you or implying you were to blame.
 

snorri

Legendary Member
No 'history' as such between us. I'd call it a total non-history as he's one of those meffs who looks the other way if you cross his path in the street. You know the sort; won't speak to you or say anything even though our eldest kids are minutes apart, were born in the same unit and in the same class at the same school and he lived three doors down from us in our last house and lives a few houses away this time round. Looks at the ground if he sees me in the vicinity and as far as I remember, I've never heard him say one word. I wouldn't know if he was Geordie, Cockney, Irish or East Anglian since he's too tight and miserly to give anything away. Even his breath.
Well, if that's not a history I don't know what is.
You have lived close to each other for some time have children of the same age, but never converse or acknowledge each others presence, and something has happened to give you the impression that he is an exceptionally mean person.
Doesn't sound like a neutral relationship to me.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Paul - after you left us on the forum ride today, some twunt swerved at Shaun (bromptonfb) and got so close that the back end of the car actually made contact with his knee! We think it was because the driver was upset at us riding two abreast. Fortunately Shaun wasn't hurt but he made his feelings very clear!

Other drivers had been managing to get by perfectly safely but this idiot decided to do a violent swerve to the left just after passing me. I wondered whether it was merely idiotic driving but Shaun and Potsy said that the guy was sticking two fingers up at them as he did it so it was clearly deliberate.

People - Let's be careful out there!

And if such people don't get reported, nothing will ever happen to change their ideas. As it is, reporting them might not acheive anything, but not reporting them certainly won't.

Paul, I don't see how reporting this chap, when you have the luxury of an address and reg number, is 'grassing'. I thought reporting crime was a responsible citizen's duty. 'Grassing' is something criminals do, based on their own twisted sense of 'honour'. To say you'd rather sort it yourself smacks of thuggery, and certainly won't influence the idiot in future, unless you assault or threaten him so badly that you lose the entire moral high ground.
 
Glad you're OK, Paul !


Is he?
 
An incident (or two, in fact) of this type, should always be reported to the authorities asap.

As Arch pointed out, seeking to find your own 'solution' is thuggery and will do you no favours!

If, as you say, you are so sure of his identity, then go and have a word, as someone previously mentioned, with him (but after you've spoken to the police); if his actions/words are threatening and abusive, then you can go back to the police and ask them to get involved.

Being a lone vigilante (a la Charles Bronson) won't do you any good (unless you're as handy as Charles Bronson).
 

Mark_Robson

Senior Member
You should be able to confirm it's the same car eventually.
If you have marks on your bike then he will have marks on the car.

The Police may be one option

'Assulting' the car may well be another
Best options are small but expensive damage.

Sugar in the tank
Let down one tyre (not more), then let down the same tyre several times
A sharp screwdriver in the side wall of a tyre will knacker the tyre. Once it is replaced, do the same again to the same tyre.
Its amazing how easy it is to break a rear light
Remove and item such as the rear bumper off the car
Key all the panels
Write a word of your choice across the car in either dulux or oven cleaner
Have you considered counselling Brains?

Paul don't do anything that you may live to regret. I understand your anger but stay within the law.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
Manchester, UK
What does your friend want you to do... given that it's his/her bike you've presumably damaged by hitting the car? If there are marks on the car (I suspect there will be) then report the idiot and claim against him for the cost of the repairs and hopefully get him some form of punishment for driving like a tw@t (points / fine / increased insurance premium etc.)
 

just jim

Guest
You should be able to confirm it's the same car eventually.
If you have marks on your bike then he will have marks on the car.

The Police may be one option

'Assulting' the car may well be another
Best options are small but expensive damage.

Sugar in the tank
Let down one tyre (not more), then let down the same tyre several times
A sharp screwdriver in the side wall of a tyre will knacker the tyre. Once it is replaced, do the same again to the same tyre.
Its amazing how easy it is to break a rear light
Remove and item such as the rear bumper off the car
Key all the panels
Write a word of your choice across the car in either dulux or oven cleaner

"Brains"?
 
First off glad you and bike are OK. Next thing, its quite obvious that you don't seem to have a close relationship with this guy so just report it to the cops. They can decide what to do from there. Just because you're unhurt / bike undamaged doesn't mean attempts to endanger life should be left unpunished. The first near miss was carelessness at best. The other incidents showed malice and are akin to road rage. From your description of encounters with the guy, he seems not to want to make eye contact, so I doubt you'll get any positive reaction from talking to him yourself.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I'd agree with others, don't take the matter into your own hands. Normally, I don't let things lie, I do take retribution where it's possible for me to do so (if I catch up :biggrin:) I don't believe in turning a blind eye.

But, this is too close to home and could escalate into a long term problem, with repercussions out of all proportion to what was a relatively small (but upsetting) incident. Report him and let the police visit him.
 
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