Desk / computer workstation fettling thread

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si_c

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I have been looking at my personal monitor. It is not the square VESA fittings so I might struggle to get a good arm to fit. The work one is a VESA fitting monitor so that is ok. I was going to get a two arm stand but it seems like I will need two separate ones. A VESA one for work and I know not what for the non-standard fitting for my personal monitor. Annoying! It means things are not as easy as I thought.

Depends on the monitor, most have some way of fitting to a VESA mount - my Dell monitor for example has the screws for the mount hidden underneath the clip on stand.
 
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It might be the case with my monitor but right now I have bigger issues. My laptop and monitor are not talking to each other. My old laptop and the monitor are talking together with both HDMI cables I have to hand. My newer laptop is fully updated and there is nothing obviously wrong except the monitor says no signal when everything is turned on and connected. It just stopped sending the signal through from the laptop to the monitor about hour and a half ago.

This is annoying as I have raised both monitors so my personal sertup is pretty good when sitting and my work setup is now good except for no ergo mouse and keyboard. Both work and personal monitors are raised up on thick books. My chair is at full height and 90 degrees at the knee. The eyeline is horizontal to the top of both monitors and my arms are to my side and the forearms are pretty much horizontal when typing or using the mouse. AFAIK this was looking to be a good setup until the HDMI no signal thing had left me using the laptop screen with a bent neck now.

No sooner do I feel that this is good and the spanner gets thrown into the works.
 

Dadam

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Try a different cable. i don't know what it is with HDMI cables but they can be flaky with connections in my experience. No problem for months or years then one day they go dodgy because they feel like it. I guess contacts wear out or get dirty but they seem more prone to it than USB-C or DisplayPort.

I will only say there is a very good reason for security.

We got told about a first lieutenant in the USAF who did plug in something that he thought was ok but not approved. By the time they found the security breach the Pentagon estimated there had been up to 6 months of a state actor having access to Pentagon systems. 18 plus months after discovering the breech they still weren't sure they had got all the malicious code out of their systems. It was a bit of an embarassment for them. That breech was due to a device plugged into his work laptop that he had innocently thought was DoD item.
No doubt there are good reasons for high security, but it depends on the risk factors and is always a balance. 100% security is only possible for example by allowing nobody access to anything. There is a cost in getting the balance wrong in either direction. I'd be interested in a link to the USAF story though. I can only find one from last year where the individual was knowingly taking home classified radio equipment and doing stuff he wasn't meant to do, and one from 2017 which involved an unsecured NAS backup drive. I guess it could be that one but a mass storage device is a long way from a mouse. It's quite easy (and very common) to block USB storage devices but allow HID (human interface devices) like mice and keyboards.
 
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HDMI cables tested on another laptop connected to the monitor. They work with the old laptop just not this new one. I know the cables are good. Or at least good enough to give the monitor a signal with the other laptop.

Can't give you a link as I guess it's not really well known. It was a flash drive made to look exactly like a very secured one provided by pentagon apparently so be didn't think it was dodgy. Stupid I know.

Thing is whether or not you or I see the policies as right or sensible it is contractual issue to have this high security approach. As they say the customer is always right, or they are of there's a threat of reduced levels of orders or reimbursements through the project. We also have other requirements to operate and breach those we get shut down. As in a big company ceases to operate.

Then again there's a lot more that I can't go into behind all this.

One thing that makes sense is how you're supposed to turn off your alexas or Google devices around your home working area. I always unplugged any alexa unit near where I work but somehow my son's alexa comes up with things related to my work. It doesn't hear me in the same room but it seems to record me in another room.

Mind you my mobile is near my computer so Google is probably listening too. Certainly when I see my search history appearing on many devices including work laptop history that's supposedly running on A secure VPN.
 

Alex321

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HDMI cables tested on another laptop connected to the monitor. They work with the old laptop just not this new one. I know the cables are good. Or at least good enough to give the monitor a signal with the other laptop.

Can't give you a link as I guess it's not really well known. It was a flash drive made to look exactly like a very secured one provided by pentagon apparently so be didn't think it was dodgy. Stupid I know.

Thing is whether or not you or I see the policies as right or sensible it is contractual issue to have this high security approach. As they say the customer is always right, or they are of there's a threat of reduced levels of orders or reimbursements through the project. We also have other requirements to operate and breach those we get shut down. As in a big company ceases to operate.

It seems absolutely bonkers that they have such strict requirements for what you plug in, while allowing you to work from home.

That means you will be using your own internet connection and router, which is probably the most vulnerable part of the system, even when using a company installed VPN. And they simply cannot tell if you are doing things like taking photographs of the screens.
 
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It's no joke. Without the winter fuel payment I'll have to chuck bricks of £50 notes on the fire to keep warm.

Well better than having shops turn them down because there's too many counterfeit 50s around. Aren't they the most counterfeited uk currency?
 
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It seems absolutely bonkers that they have such strict requirements for what you plug in, while allowing you to work from home.

That means you will be using your own internet connection and router, which is probably the most vulnerable part of the system, even when using a company installed VPN. And they simply cannot tell if you are doing things like taking photographs of the screens.

They do make a big deal of personal qualities like integrity. They acknowledge they can't control home working but they rely on personal awareness and integrity.

Then again you can't access the higher levels of sensitive documents except for wired desktops in certain areas on site. I guess the proprietary documents but not sensitive or higher. Seriously there's laws that apply from several countries that apply to these matters. It's heavy handed and they can't guarantee everything but there's good reasons behind all this. Not that I really have access to the serious documents and records because my job doesn't currently require it. That could change and the result would be more days on site in certain high security areas to handle them.

VPN isn't necessarily that secure but the only access I have via it is on the lower security servers. A bit of higher security is on other systems I have VPN based system access to but there's extra training and security checks to do that. Still relying on my integrity, which I think I still have enough of.

I am, as you probably realise, keeping a lot from you for probably obvious reasons. I do struggle with knowing what I can and can't say at times. There's a lot I won't say here but I do say a bit more when for example with family even extended family or friends. One on one conversation or trusted ppl. If in doubt I leave it out but Iam not perfect at that.

I simply don't see it as heavy handed rules just likely unenforceable rules. I am mostly a rule keeper than a rule breaker though.
 
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I don't know what you're talking about :rolleyes:

That comment makes me wonder about cops and ex cops. What crime would you say as a cop or ex cop would your feel confident of getting away with? Nobody's perfect and in strict reading of the laws coppers probably do fall foul of the law as indeed with everyone. I just wonder with your insight if there's anything that you'd need to be a copper to get away with.

No need to answer. It is just my curious mind reflecting on something. Not making a point or anything.

PS there's a good chance everyone who has cash might have a counterfeit currency. I heard there's a lot of counterfeit £1 coins in circulation.
 

newts

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I do a couple of 1/2 days a week working from home & make do with the dining room table.
Place mats under a scissor laptop stand works well & packs away quickly when i get hungry.
It raises the laptop screen to mid height with the second monitor.
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