Diesel dilemma ....
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Over The Hill
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I think you are going about the choice the wrong way.
No point in just saying the Logan is better compared to your present car - it is how it compares with alternatives.
The Logan is a great big lump of car. It looks to be rather short on engine power for a car that size and I do rather question the ability to deliver the mpg claimed. On paper it matches smaller cars but I really think it will not deliver the economy so well.
If you want to consider green credentials then I think you have to look for something that is not the size of a bus. There are some very roomy medium estates around that will deliver the economy. My guess is that they have a VW style tweak on them.
Generally from the posts above you can see that no one really cares about the environment and is happy to buy something that will burn up much more fuel over its lifetime if it saves them a few bob on service costs.
If you are looking at the green options then it is simply down to Diesel kicking out less pollution but what it does kick out is thought to do more harm.
That said, you are buying something with the latest cleanest diesel engine. The tests and pollution concerns are relating to the cars and commercials presently on the road, many of which are now 10+ years old. Has the concerns with diesel already been addressed to some great extent?
Personally I would go with a diesel. My wife has a Pug 208 diesel with a 1.4 in it and it returns great MPG Same engine in the 308 estate gives a decent size car you can probably chuck two bikes in.
Hope you get it sorted.
No point in just saying the Logan is better compared to your present car - it is how it compares with alternatives.
The Logan is a great big lump of car. It looks to be rather short on engine power for a car that size and I do rather question the ability to deliver the mpg claimed. On paper it matches smaller cars but I really think it will not deliver the economy so well.
If you want to consider green credentials then I think you have to look for something that is not the size of a bus. There are some very roomy medium estates around that will deliver the economy. My guess is that they have a VW style tweak on them.
Generally from the posts above you can see that no one really cares about the environment and is happy to buy something that will burn up much more fuel over its lifetime if it saves them a few bob on service costs.
If you are looking at the green options then it is simply down to Diesel kicking out less pollution but what it does kick out is thought to do more harm.
That said, you are buying something with the latest cleanest diesel engine. The tests and pollution concerns are relating to the cars and commercials presently on the road, many of which are now 10+ years old. Has the concerns with diesel already been addressed to some great extent?
Personally I would go with a diesel. My wife has a Pug 208 diesel with a 1.4 in it and it returns great MPG Same engine in the 308 estate gives a decent size car you can probably chuck two bikes in.
Hope you get it sorted.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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It's got a silly name. Logan WTF
Drago
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You're making the fundamental error of assuming that the only environmental cost of a car is its emissions and/or related fuel consumption. Those DMFs, those extra rubber tyres, that nasty urea/EOYLS compound have significant environmental costs of their own that do not apply to petrol cars.
The true measure of your environmental concern is how many miles you do, and with less than 3,000 a year under its belt my relatively noxious elderly Kia is responsible for less emissions than a Pious or an electric car that does average mileage, and didn't rape the planet half as badly when the materials were being scavenged to manufacture it.
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
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I'm a fan of high mileage(> 80,000 miles) second hand diesel vans. They tend to be relatively young despite the mileage and are usually pretty reliable. My last one cost £2000 and eventually went to the scrappie with 140,000 on the clock having never been serviced in eight years. It was probably an environmental disaster on four wheels.
Tin Pot
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Drago
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The Wolverine?
Drago
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...and so much weedier than a full fat 2 litre petrol. Horses for courses.
Kevoffthetee
On the road to nowhere
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- Newcastle upon Tyne
get a petrol with a decent size engine (1.8-2.5) and get it on LPG. modern sequential systems are almost as economical as when on petrol but it costs half the price at the pump. We supply a local taxi firm and they currently run 88 cars on LPG, some of them are toyota hybrids which is even cheaper again.
just make sure you get a quality kit fitted by professionals and not some cheap rubbish fitted by these idiots who do it in any less than 3 days. It's impossible to do it properly in less than that. make sure they are UKLPG certified and get a 2 years limited mileage warranty
just make sure you get a quality kit fitted by professionals and not some cheap rubbish fitted by these idiots who do it in any less than 3 days. It's impossible to do it properly in less than that. make sure they are UKLPG certified and get a 2 years limited mileage warranty
simon the viking
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