Grant Fondo
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Always thought the £20 a year road tax on my mk7 GTD was iffy?
Read ALL the small print VERY carefully. My wife had a VW that was supposedly eligible. If for some reason the claim failed the lawyers would charge you their exorbitant hourly rate for the time they spent on the case.I am very sceptical.
Any experience here of this?
I said right at the start of the VW scandal that if they struggled to meet emissions targets and supply a driveable car then surely the other manufacturers would be having exactly the same problems.
I believe BMW are on the chopping block now as well?.
Hey ho..
But thats exactly how the software cheated...at the MOT or point of test where engine revs, load etc are limited and the software could do it's cheating. 99.9% of the rest of the time (ie normal driving conditions) , the car couldnt meet the emissions it was stated to achieve.I think emissions based vehicle tax should be based on actual emissions recorded at an MOT. That'd separate the bullpois from the reality.
My enormous great tower block on wheels would do nicely out of that. Currently its about £330 a year because its supposedly a filthy polluting behemoth, yet at the last MOT it was running so cleanly it wouldn't even trigger the testers machine.
Basing an emissions linked vehicle tax upon what some bulls******g German engineer with a vested interest in telling pork pies says is madness. Lets base it upon what actually comes out of the tailpipe (or 4 tailpipes, in my case).
This is more about officially-claimed emissions than the MOT - the MOT emissions requirements for diesels are pretty easy to pass and nothing like as tough as the EURO emissions standards. And since VED is supposedly linked to CO2 emissions an MOT will be useless anyway because CO2 is not measured.But thats exactly how the software cheated...at the MOT or point of test where engine revs, load etc are limited and the software could do it's cheating. 99.9% of the rest of the time (ie normal driving conditions) , the car couldnt meet the emissions it was stated to achieve.
I'd claim, simply because VW and the like actively and deliberately cheated and cheated at a time when emissions were known to be causing excessive pollution and health problems. They deserve everything that comes their way...and if i could be a small part of that punishment, i'd happily do it.I regularly get the diesel scam emails and letters. I have owned a diesel VW van for the last 7 years and it's one covered by the scandal. But I have no intention of claiming the "thousands of pounds in compensation owed to you" as the van does what I want, is reasonably economical and I keep my vehicles until they are scrapped, so I don't see what I am being compensated for. As has been said, it would be hypocritical for me to do otherwise.
Almost, you're on the right lines. It cheated the euro emissions test, which requires certain engine cycle for a precisely prescribed number of seconds - the software recognised the unique combination of throttle positions and timings, and activated the cheat mode. The testing cycle is quite convoluted and very unique, theres zero prospect of the conditions ever being encountered in real motoring and the mode being accidentally triggred.But thats exactly how the software cheated...at the MOT or point of test where engine revs, load etc are limited and the software could do it's cheating. 99.9% of the rest of the time (ie normal driving conditions) , the car couldnt meet the emissions it was stated to achieve.
I thought that was the government who were giving incentives to buy diesel cars, or at least promoting them as cleaner than petrol. Being a petrol head back then, I knew diesels were never going to be cleaner than petrol.Indeed, but what if you are just a little bit aware of and concerned about the issue and are persuaded by brochure data that it isn't as bad as is made out? This all happened back in the Day of the Diesel - when they were ubiquitous, snatching more sales in some countries than petrol because they offered big torque and big economy. FFS there were even diesel performance and sports cars - they won Le Mans 5 times.