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OP
Easytigers

Easytigers

Guru
There needs to be much better awareness of these issues. The premises have no right to make you feel like you are a problem - they are the problem for not being able to accommodate and cater for your needs.
Thanks Rooster,
In my email to them I did say that if they wouldn't cater for people with disabilities and special needs then they should be clear about it! It wasn't very nice and my wife had a good cry about it all last night :-(
 

biggs682

Itching to get back on my bike's
Location
Northamptonshire
Thanks Biggs,
Feeling less cross today! It was the Dog and Duck in Welligborough which is part of the Beefeater group. Have emailed and awaiting their reply!
Hope all is well with you and the family :-)

@Easytigers glad you are less cross today

must admit we have only used "Dog & duck " once due to the poor lighting in there but thats no excuse , get yourself on to Trip Advisor and leave them a review , i started doing reviews on there about 18 months ago for an un remembered reason .

Its worth doing and i always point out how wheelchair friendly a place is due to the fact that quite often my partner has to use one and its quite nice to get feedback from other people saying thanks for letting us know good or bad
 

Slick

Guru
Thanks Rooster,
In my email to them I did say that if they wouldn't cater for people with disabilities and special needs then they should be clear about it! It wasn't very nice and my wife had a good cry about it all last night :-(
Terrible that a visit for something to eat could leave anyone like that. Obviously, they would never admit to not catering for all. Disgusting really.
 

Dirk

If 6 Was 9
Location
Watchet
maybe, everyone has bad days as you say, but that is no excuse
Maybe not an excuse but a possible explanation.
The OP didn't state that they were actually asked to leave, just that the - ' the manageress came and made it very clear that we should leave by giving Abi evil looks and tutting disapprovingly!'
That seems, on the face of it, to be a subjective take on the scenario.
 
I count myself extremely fortunate that I have not been subject to such abuse. I can also see that poor training and lack of experience may play a part in how sone businesses treat people.

That, in my opinion would be the likely cause. The solution, however, is not to condone, but to confront and educate.

Of course that’s easily done from my arm chair in hot, sunny London and not with an upset family and another day ruined by thoughtlessness.

OP, it is not your job to educate Britain, but I dare say you have every member here supporting you should choose to do so on occasion. We stand with you and your family.
 
it is not your job to educate Britain

No, and for a lot of families of children with additional needs it is just too exhausting to attempt - so NEVER feel you have to.

I'm "lucky" in that my now-teen aspie mostly copes with most stuff, and is able to access the majority of things that he wants to access. There are times that his not-coping-well will look to outsiders like misbehaviour, stroppiness or brattishness. And when you're dealing with a meltdown or whatever your focus tends to be on that, not on the people around! He hasn't had any massive public outbursts for quite a long time but people will often 'read' his anxiety and distress when he's buttoning it down as him being rude; that's kind of the other side of him kind of 'passing', of course - people don't necessarily realise that they may need to make an adjustment. Sometimes, after the not-coping has been dealt with, I will take the opportunity to explain to people - not to justify him, but mainly in the hope that down the line some other neuro-divergent person might benefit from someone having just a little bit more insight - but sometimes you just haven't got the spoons.

Classic example - ice skating last week, for the fourth or fifth time, he put on the hire boots and went once round the rink alternating between a face like thunder and looking a bit like a sulky toddler on the edge of tears. It took a couple of iterations of the conversation before I could establish that the problem wasn't boot discomfort but the blades on said boots. I asked if he wanted to swap them, he 'didn't know' which is basically code for not being able to work out, or face implementing, a solution so I offered to go with him to swap - at this point it was abundantly clear to me that he did want to swap them but couldn't face the complex social interaction of dealing with the boot hire staff, because he didn't have a 'script' for that. So I did that bit, and actually he managed to look at them and say thank you for the replacements which was more than I'd expected, and once he'd put on his boots and was back on the ice I took the opportunity to thank the member of staff for their help - and explain that he has ASC, that part of his autism is being differently sensitive to sensation, that he is motivated enough by his enjoyment of skating to get past the boots being pretty uncomfortable but just couldn't deal with the 'wrong' feeling of a particularly blunt set of blades on the ice.

I refuse to ever "apologise" for his autism though!
 
I know I go on about london( the shock and horror) but in an average day I must pass several hundred people, interact with at least a couple of hundred and hold conversations with up to a hundred. I assume this means I must meet regularly a huge spectrum of people quite often. I know that the spectrum is limited due to my working day, but none the less it’s still a lot of people.

Do people with different needs find more understanding in larger cities or is that simply not how it works?
 
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