Disgusting excuse of a cyclist 🤷‍♂️

[Dogtrousers]

I've mentioned this before but I was once beeped while cycling for not running a light. Lights went to amber I stopped. Van driver behind me was not impressed by my namby pamby approach.

I didn't make any gestures. I just chuckled to myself.

 

[markemark]

Ok. Example. Kite flying in public the U.K. is illegal. Look it up.
Now, people die and are injured each year by kite flyers. Usually strangled or throats cut. It happens. Look it up.

Kite flying is illegal. It rarely but does kill and injure. It is said that we can’t pick and choose what rules we follow. The rules here are clear. It’s illegal.

So, by the same logic, should all decent citizens reprimand any family or kids we might see flying a kite on a beach or in a field? Should we intervene? Or do we accept the extremely remote chance of death, ignore the law and let it go?

 

[blackrat]

They didn’t, that’s the point here.

You can wander off into ‘what if’ land all you like if you want to create a scenario that suits you rather than address what actually happened here.

This thread is about a non-event.

This thread is about a non-event.

I've forgotten what this thread is all about, could someone do a recap including all the pertinent material - just in case someone else is lost?

 

[Vantage]

While there isn't a blanket ban on kite flying in the UK, it's illegal to fly a kite on public thoroughfares according to the Metropolitan Police Act 1839. Additionally, the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 prohibits flying a kite in any street if it causes obstruction, annoyance, or danger. It's generally safer and more appropriate to fly kites in parks and open spaces, especially in areas away from roads and potential obstructions.

Nice try @markemark

Since when was red light jumping generally accepted?
Oh, and I found this too, so it's not completely illegal.

https://thekitesociety.org.uk/KiteRules.html

Any other smartass attempts?

 

[classic33]

Ok. Example. Kite flying in public the U.K. is illegal. Look it up.
Now, people die and are injured each year by kite flyers. Usually strangled or throats cut. It happens. Look it up.

Kite flying is illegal. It rarely but does kill and injure. It is said that we can’t pick and choose what rules we follow. The rules here are clear. It’s illegal.

So, by the same logic, should all decent citizens reprimand any family or kids we might see flying a kite on a beach or in a field? Should we intervene? Or do we accept the extremely remote chance of death, ignore the law and let it go?

Not quite illegal as given.
According to the Metropolitan Police Act 1839, it is illegal to fly a kite on public thoroughfares. But don’t worry if you’ve already broken this one—many children are still doing so today.

Further information here.

 

[Vantage]

I've mentioned this before but I was once beeped while cycling for not running a light. Lights went to amber I stopped. Van driver behind me was not impressed by my namby pamby approach.

I didn't make any gestures. I just chuckled to myself.

It's a bit different to jumping a red light isn't it?

 

[matticus]

Do I have to obey red lights on foot? (I mean on the road - not on the pavement.)

 

[figbat]

Do I have to obey red lights on foot? (I mean on the road - not on the pavement.)

Furthermore, am I (as a pedestrian) obliged to stop at pedestrian crossing red lights, or are they just a suggestion?

 

[Dogtrousers]

Furthermore, am I (as a pedestrian) obliged to stop at pedestrian crossing red lights, or are they just a suggestion?

The highway code has plenty of advice for pedestrians, but little in the way of laws. There's RTA section 25, Pedestrian Crossings that says "A person who contravenes any regulations made under this section shall be guilty of an offence." but doesn't actually say what these regulations are other than "The relevant authority may make regulations ..." So I don't know what to make of that.

Plus there are a number of other laws that can be summed up as "don't be a dick" around obstructing the highway, causing a nuisance, loitering and stuff that may apply.

But a pedestrian can choose to cross a road wherever they like* (unless it's a special no-pedestrians road like a motorway). You don't have to use a designated crossing. So if you don't fancy waiting for the green man at (say) a pelican you can always cross somewhere else, providing that you do so sensibly and don't fall foul of the "don't be a dick" laws.

Pedestrian crossings are a convenience to protect pedestrians from those causing the danger (drivers). It doesn't mean that peds at the crossing are treated in the same way legally as drivers.

* I do this every time I go to my local shop. There's a slightly inconveniently placed pelican. If the traffic is heavy then I detour and use the crossing but 90% of the time I just stroll across about 20m from the crossing. Taking care not to be a dick.

 

[matticus]

Furthermore, am I (as a pedestrian) obliged to stop at pedestrian crossing red lights, or are they just a suggestion?

I'd phrase it as "A strong suggestion, intended for your own safety."
I wouldn't say
"You're a dangerous lunatic if you don't, as you might kill several motorists (and probably a kitten)".

The law around this seems fine as it is; it's motorists who are causing the danger.