Doping and diets

[sidevalve]

Been talking this one over with a few friends [yes I have some] and we can't really decide.
At what point do the [very] special diets of professional sportsmen and women start to drift into the territory of simply being drugs by another channel ?
After all an athlete is low on xyz so the trainer says 'oh we'll increase your intake of whatever to make up the levels'. Note we are not talking about just a good healthy diet here but the 'scientific' measured checked and analysed intake of the professional athlete.
Ok you don't get the instant 'hit' and the effects take a little longer but basically the chemicals are simply being ingested in another form.
High protein drinks are a mild [and not ideal] example but at what point does this start to drift into 'doping'?

 

[Vapin' Joe]

When you use a banned substance.

 

[Milzy]

You seem to be one of those naive old mothers who think that their sons are on steroids whilst body building because they spend a lot of money on supplements from Myprotein.com, bulk powders etc o_O

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Been talking this one over with a few friends [yes I have some] and we can't really decide.
At what point do the [very] special diets of professional sportsmen and women start to drift into the territory of simply being drugs by another channel ?
After all an athlete is low on xyz so the trainer says 'oh we'll increase your intake of whatever to make up the levels'. Note we are not talking about just a good healthy diet here but the 'scientific' measured checked and analysed intake of the professional athlete.
Ok you don't get the instant 'hit' and the effects take a little longer but basically the chemicals are simply being ingested in another form.
High protein drinks are a mild [and not ideal] example but at what point does this start to drift into 'doping'?

Being precise with diet has nothing to do with, nor is linked to doping in any way - neither for that matter is use of supplements ie: proteins

 

[midlife]

Fat, carbohydrate, protein etc..........the digestive tract simply chops it up and uses it as it needs and stores the rest if it can. Nothing to do with doping

Shaun

 

[Citius]

Been talking this one over with a few friends [yes I have some] and we can't really decide.
At what point do the [very] special diets of professional sportsmen and women start to drift into the territory of simply being drugs by another channel ?
After all an athlete is low on xyz so the trainer says 'oh we'll increase your intake of whatever to make up the levels'. Note we are not talking about just a good healthy diet here but the 'scientific' measured checked and analysed intake of the professional athlete.
Ok you don't get the instant 'hit' and the effects take a little longer but basically the chemicals are simply being ingested in another form.
High protein drinks are a mild [and not ideal] example but at what point does this start to drift into 'doping'?

Not really sure what you are asking. Banned substances are banned substances, regardless of how they are taken. EPO (for instance) is a hormone. It is still banned, irrespective of whether you inject it, or sprinkle it on your cornflakes....

 

[fossyant]

Professional athlete's are hammering their bodies, so it makes sense to have blood levels checked to work out imbalances and adjust diet and supplements. It's also beneficial to health.

 

[Milzy]

Professional athlete's are hammering their bodies, so it makes sense to have blood levels checked to work out imbalances and adjust diet and supplements. It's also beneficial to health.

So I race as an amateur but hammer my body. Will my NHS doctor do me a full blood screening??

 

[fossyant]

So I race as an amateur but hammer my body. Will my NHS doctor do me a full blood screening??

If you pay for it you can get it. I know my iron and haemoglobin are low as I've been tested for other stuff. Pro's get full checkups - it's part of their job, and a responsible 'employer/sponsor' will make sure their 'asset' is at peak condition.

Sky go all into this ensuring the riders get all sorts of care on and off the bike, own bedding, own cooks etc.

 

[Jimidh]

So I race as an amateur but hammer my body. Will my NHS doctor do me a full blood screening??

No but you can pay a private GP to do so - just like the pros.

 

[Daryn]

I have a mate that hits the weights does karate. He always looks cut up not huge but stocky and really strong Ive seen him lift some real heavy stuff. I used to go to his private gym which is mainly made up of friends and I asked him which protein powders and supplements I should be taking and his reply was non of them eat the right foods and get your proteins, carbs and vitimins from that.

 

[Hover Fly]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYHAR8Xzsyo

 

[ayceejay]

Sports nutrition is a specialized and important subject that attempts to find the appropriate fuel for an athletes needs. Drugs that are intended to by pass or boost this natural process should be avoided and that is why they are banned.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Sports nutrition is a specialized and important subject that attempts to find the appropriate fuel for an athletes needs. Drugs that are intended to by pass or boost this natural process should be avoided and that is why they are banned.

I'd need a permanent TUE because I take a prescription diuretic every day. Nothing wrong with the drug in itself because it's not performance enhancing. Its misuse, however, is - when athletes take it as a flush-away the evidence masking drug. So I'd argue the case for use vs misuse on what you'd probably classify as a bypass drug here.

 

[ayceejay]

Point taken