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Doping in other sports

Discussion in 'Pro Cycling (Road and Track Racing)' started by montage, 17 Jan 2013.

  1. montage

    montage God Almighty

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  2. Andrew_Culture

    Andrew_Culture Internet Marketing bod

    Lysergic acid enhanced darts can be lethal.
     
  3. DP

    DP Chasse patate

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    Supersuperleeds Guru

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  5. oldroadman

    oldroadman Veteran

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    Or track and field, swimming, marathon running, rugby, or any other sport where there is money to be made ..simple fact is some people will cheat in any profession they think it will work and they can get away with it. Bankers being a good (non-chemical except maybe an alleged bit of snow up the nose) example!
     
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  6. GBC

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  7. zizou

    zizou Veteran

    EPO was being used by Juventus in the mid 90s before it really caught on in cycling. They won 2 champions league during that period (not just on EPO but they were taking other things too) - no one seems to care though, certainly no talk of stripping their medals or how every winner since is tainted because someone cheated in the past and got away with it. In more recent years some clubs have been up front about their use of blood spinning to improve recovery times. Seemingly acceptable and no controversy, but if a cyclist does it then it is a doping scandal (and rightly so).

    At the moment there are alot of connections with Spanish football (in particular Barcelona) and doping - much of it circumstantial it has to be said - however what is clear is that the best player in the world took HGH in his teens - fair enough perhaps there are medical reasons for this. However this treatment was paid for by his current club who have then gained the benefit in subsequent years - why is that acceptable but East Germany doping athletes as teens in the 1980s not?

    As for tennis, it is pretty dirty too but most fans and the media dont seem to care and instead prefer to believe fairy tales about sleeping in magic eggs and being stuck in panic rooms.
     
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  8. thom

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    Messi suffered from congenital growth hormone deficiency for which HGH is a normal treatment innit ?
     
  9. Hacienda71

    Hacienda71 Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire

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    There was even the use of beta blockers in snooker.
     
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  11. albion

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    Just look at Boxing.
    World champions insist on plenty of pre-fight doping tests so the fight does not take place.

    And it does not take a dope to think that doping in tennis is a nice little racket.
     
  12. ayceejay

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    Remember that Canadian kid who lost his snowboarding medal for using performance enhancing drugs, whoever decided that had never smoked a joint and that's for sure.
    "Oh wow, which way to the snow man?"
     
  13. anyone who thinks cycling is the only sport with drug use is seriously deluded.

    anyone who thinks cycling has the worst drug problem of any sport, ditto.

    i wonder if they will ever release the names of the other sports people in the Puerto case. methinks money will cover it up somewhat.
     
  14. Nebulous

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    I'm quite cynical about most top level sport. I've never followed cycling to any extent, but was very keen on watching athletics. Ben Johnson's 100 metres in 1988 was so exciting that I could barely sleep afterwards, then the drug results came out. I've hardly watched an athletics meet since. I then transferred my attention to Formula 1, I happened to be out of the house during the San Marino grand prix in 1994, came back and put on the TV to find the race stopped with them trying to save the critically injured Ayrton Senna. Again I don't think I've watched a whole grand prix since.

    So for various reasons I'm cynical about most sport - however I do think cycling has a special problem. It maybe one of perception, it maybe the lingering shadow of amateurism versus professional sport, but whatever it is; if you say 'Worst sport for drug-taking?' to the hypothetical man on the Clapham omnibus then he's going to reply cycling.
     
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  15. davefb

    davefb Über Member

    bill werbenek ( crikey it can't be spelt like that :smile: ), who also drank up to 30pints a day during matches ?!

    the funniest is the bans on diurectics (?) , which causes problems for the older bowls players ;)..

    I think the point is true though, some sports have sorted themselves out and got better testing regimes ( it's pretty obvious cyclings lack of testing out of competition was a flaw !), but others havent, eg football appears to avoid doing so.