Right,I had these on my road bike, ohh 20 years ago..... I'm in the possesion of a nice steel frame, stripped all the paint off it and want to do a retro styled road bike. It had lugs for downtube shifters, if I get friction ones could I use either shimano or campag on a campag rear mech? I'd assume yes as there is no indexing. Next question, can you buy them at the LBS? I've seen plenty on the bay, but dont know if the bosses are the same for either make? Also, if I buy some of the band on ones, I'll jjust be able to take them off the band? Right? Cheers, Pete.