Dumb phone: recommend me one, please.

[classic33]

If you communicate by any electronic means ECHELON will be listening, programmed to watch out for key words.

And if you phone to try and get an appointment at the doctors after hitting a gas pipe, with the plume hitting you in the face. You were worrjed it magy Having said the incident had resulted in a system lockdown/crash, and no explosion in your laboratory.

Describing what happened may just have them bolt upright in their chairs.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

If you are interested in how position of a cell phone is worked out have a read of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_localization

Where an individual tower or omni or directional does not really matter. The number of masts a phone can talk to is. Signal strength and round trip time can be used to estimate distance from mast, three or more masts and the region the phone must be in gets smaller and smaller.

 

[classic33]

If you are interested in how position of a cell phone is worked out have a read of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_localization

Where an individual tower or omni or directional does not really matter. The number of masts a phone can talk to is. Signal strength and round trip time can be used to estimate distance from mast, three or more masts and the region the phone must be in gets smaller and smaller.

The number being cut in manual network selection compared to automatic network selection, which is constantly seeking the strongest signal.

 

[jefmcg]

@r04DiE, if you have genuine concerns with your privacy, then you should request that CycleChat delete your posts. They will be associated with your IP address, which is fine for us casual users , but if someone in intelligence is tracking you, then you might be called on to defend or deny any opinions expressed from an IP address you may have used. That could put you in an awkward position.

 

[classic33]

I value my privacy, but why delete the posts. My IP address moves around the country(service provider, not me doing it), but there's ways and means of maintaining privacy without resorting to dropping out of one forum.

Those that may need to track a person, law enforcement agencies, have the power to ask for the details of any poster.

 

[r04DiE]

@r04DiE, if you have genuine concerns with your privacy, then you should request that CycleChat delete your posts. They will be associated with your IP address, which is fine for us casual users , but if someone in intelligence is tracking you, then you might be called on to defend or deny any opinions expressed from an IP address you may have used. That could put you in an awkward position.

Thank you but I use a VPN so my IP address is hidden.

 

[r04DiE]

Every digital phone has it's movement tracked, not just smartphones.

This is true but smart phones can be tracked more accurately using apps, GPS, and all of your internet metadata is available too.

 

[r04DiE]

[QUOTE 5322837, member: 9609"]its difficult now to have privacy, we're pretty much monitored by the giant mega companies no matter what we do - my wife has a nectar card and we both use the internet so they know what we buy and what we do. But I do try and draw the line at carrying a tracking device around with me or installing a "Listening" device in my own home. very strange how people complained back in the 90s about big brother and CCTV in town centres, and now they have rolled over to have their tummies tickled with smart phones and alexa


yes, I know dumb phones can be located through a sort of triangulation, but I'm quite happy for the police to find me when ever they want, I just don't want some giant american corporation keeping some file on me of everywhere I have been, or if I'm about to cycle past some shop that might want to sell me something that my wife viewed on the internet 3 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with everything you say here but there are some simple measures that you can take to reduce or stop targeted ads. One of the first things that you should do is to use a mail provider that encrypts your messages and has a good privacy policy regarding the way it handles your mail. All of the large email providers will snoop into your mail, Google even admitted to it the other day and people are still using Gmail. Use a search engine that doesn't track you, and set your browser up so that it does not keep cookies.

These are good places to start.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Why are people so hung up on targeted ads?
I find them very useful, sometimes one gets bargains without trailing the net for hours.
I'd rather have umpteen ads for cycling stuff than umpteen ads for older single men looking for a relationship!
That we must see ads is a given: either that or there would be a fee to access most interesting stuff on the net.
Servers, bandwidth, humans to make it all work and put content up cost money.

 

[tamiya]

My plan was to google, and humiliate you with shops that had it in stock. It did not go according to plan.
- a ha! JB has them.
.... Add to cart; view cart ....

Evil temptress, you...!
JB Hifi, Officeworks, Colesworth - thems my usual haunts.

Haha no, I'm not that desperate - it's a curio more than anything.

RRP I think it's A$80ish here, have seen them as low as $30-50 including a prepaid SIM. I'd pay $30 to play Snake but that's about it,

But that said, was never a fan of Nokia. Haven't yet given them a cent of my own, I only ever bought Ericssons all the old Nokias in my museum drawer were dumped there by friends & family or courtesy of work.

I'll be first to admit though, Nokias had great battery life & they were rugged! Not tough unyielding like Ericssons (diecast chassis used as hammer!) but flexible like bamboo & they survived a licking. Built modular too so they're easy to repair & mod like Lego.

 

[r04DiE]

Why are people so hung up on targeted ads?
I find them very useful, sometimes one gets bargains without trailing the net for hours.
I'd rather have umpteen ads for cycling stuff than umpteen ads for older single men looking for a relationship!
That we must see ads is a given: either that or there would be a fee to access most interesting stuff on the net.
Servers, bandwidth, humans to make it all work and put content up cost money.

The problem with targeted ads is that your every move, your every site visit, your every facebook like, friend, dislike, your current mood, your messages, your emails, the places you go on holiday, your pictures, and a gazillion other things are pawed over by others, in order that the targeting is correctly defined.

 

[classic33]

A regular one on here is the 1,000,000 milllionth visitor to this site today and I'm in with a chance of winning an apple product. With my luck an apple turnover or such.

 

[swee'pea99]

The problem with targeted ads is that your every move, your every site visit, your every facebook like, friend, dislike, your current mood, your messages, your emails, the places you go on holiday, your pictures, and a gazillion other things are pawed over by others, in order that the targeting is correctly defined.

Not by others; by algorithms. And I'm entirely with Pat on this one. I just don't see why people get so animated about this. So I get cycling-related ads rather than non-cycling-related ads because I'm into cycling. So what?

 

[r04DiE]

Not by others; by algorithms. And I'm entirely with Pat on this one. I just don't see why people get so animated about this. So I get cycling-related ads rather than non-cycling-related ads because I'm into cycling. So what?

Not so, I am afraid. Google has openly admitted that it reads people's emails and that third-party app developers read people's emails. Google has also said that Gmail users "should not expect privacy". We all have a fundamental human right to our privacy and this right is being trampled over to make companies like Google rich. That is what is wrong with targeted ads.

 

[swee'pea99]

Not so, I am afraid. Google has openly admitted that it reads people's emails and that third-party app developers read people's emails. Google has also said that Gmail users "should not expect privacy". We all have a fundamental human right to our privacy and this right is being trampled over to make companies like Google rich. That is what is wrong with targeted ads.

Google is not a person. How can 'it' read people's emails? Are you saying Google has 'openly admitted' that its employees read people's emails? Do you have a reference for this?