Ivan Ardon
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Back to the bike in the OP, isn't it also illegal to sell it without the mandatory reflectors and BS markings?
Dutch style commuter bike
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thomas
the tank engine
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skwerl said:
In the end of the day, if you buy a car with brake lights that don't work, you, the driver are responsible. Not the person who sells it to you. You should make sure you're on a road worthy mode of transport.
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thomas said:
Not wholly true; here is a discussion of the regulations that apply at point of sale...
http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4072
thomas
the tank engine
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Delftse Post said:
I'm not saying a shop isn't liable, but you should still make sure, yourself, it's safe before riding it.
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thomas said:
Ok - it seems I misunderstood what you were saying; skwerl's original question asked about the sellers' responsibilities.
thomas
the tank engine
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- Woking/Norwich
Delftse Post said:
Nah, I didn't word it very well!
thomas said:
but not all of the items that must be sold with a bike must be used with a bike. I'm referring to what the shop is required to include by law. The consumer shouldn't be required to know (or should they? Shouldn't consumers know all their rights? See distance selling regs as a good example of how often we ignore our rights). I agree that they hold some responsibility for ensuring they know it's safe to ride but with a brand-new bike where does that end? How carfeully do you inspect the bike for the first time? Many people have not a clue when it comes to declaring a bike safe to ride.
If you pick your new bike up, having been told it's ready for use and checked over, only to hit your first hill, find the brakes are badly adjusted, crash and break your arms would a court rule in some contributory negligence. It gets more interesting when you start to ask: at what point does seller responsibility end? After the initial free service at 6 weeks? That may end up 'resetting' the liability. After all, the shop has just given your bike a full check and all-clear.
Cubist
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I'm puzzled by all this Dutch bike business. I can see an element of cool in a bike so ugly my kids wouldn't let me in the house, but I have a technical question.
Do Dutch cycling clogs have a sole plate, or do you drill the holes for the cleats straight into the bottom of the clog? Would woodscrews hold the cleats in place or would you need splined thread inserts?
Do Dutch cycling clogs have a sole plate, or do you drill the holes for the cleats straight into the bottom of the clog? Would woodscrews hold the cleats in place or would you need splined thread inserts?
thomas
the tank engine
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- Woking/Norwich
skwerl said:
I'd pay £120 if you could eat it all in one sitting (and it was made with basic range ingredients to make it even bigger
)Oh dear! This guy's been flashmobbed with negativity. The bike looks a bit on the heavy side, but for £120 it seems like a good deal to me (not that I would actually know BTW). I couldn't find a use for it, but it seems to be being promoted as a cheap fun bike, the guy's not saying you could ride the TDF on it. I mean how much would it cost to have the front brake, a bell and some reflectors fitted?
I do admit to knowing bugger all about bikes, but I'm suspecting that if this was made by a trendy manufacturer and cost £600 some people would be raving about its "retro purity" and " streamlined simplicity"
I do admit to knowing bugger all about bikes, but I'm suspecting that if this was made by a trendy manufacturer and cost £600 some people would be raving about its "retro purity" and " streamlined simplicity"
