Endura and Rapha changes

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katiewlx

Senior Member
whilst I dont think its much of a surprise, thats more down to the style and range of clothing they sold, they simply were a dull brand, and there are lots of dull brand cycling kit makers (maybe increasingly less though as a whole) who were alot cheaper.

really their problem was trying to be a premium brand with a perma discount operation, I got some of their jerseys and had a couple of their bibs and I thought the pad was ok (but like saddles theyre all individual perception and over time it can change too) but it was never stuff youd pay RRP for.

as for the do you ever see anyone wearing it thing, funnily I did at the weekend and I was a bit surprised tbh :laugh:, but there are lots of the brands Ive got and wear I never see anyone wearing either, yet those brands seem to be surviving, I do worry about the viability of some of them, but like the last time I did like a mass cycling thing, it felt like the majority had just turned up in stuff theyd bought off aliexpress, or theyd been keeping in a cupboard since the 80s.

Im sure if I went on a bun run to Windsor, Id see alot more people wearing the brands Id recognise from all the cycling social media influencers I follow, but again maybe this was LeCols problem even if the broke into the bun runners market, theres a world of cycling outside of that where people seem quite happy to wear stuff that fits terribly, looks awful as a result, but Id guess is quite cheap in comparison.

trying to sell a piece of lycra jersey for £150, when you can buy something that looks reasonably similar, even if it doesnt come with all the bells and whistles of proper clothing design, for just £5-£10, its like where even is the average, keen or ultra keen cyclist getting their kit from thesedays.
 
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Happy_Days

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trying to sell a piece of lycra jersey for £150, when you can buy something that looks reasonably similar, even if it doesnt come with all the bells and whistles of proper clothing design, for just £5-£10, its like where even is the average, keen or ultra keen cyclist getting their kit from thesedays.
That’s a good question! Moreover, some jerseys now cost £200+ :ohmy:

Who’s spending £275 on a jersey from Rapha? Regardless of your wealth, this pricing takes the Mickey out of customers.

https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/jerseys?sortBy=products_en_price_descending
 

VinSumRox

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I have got jerseys and jackets from Rapha (in the sale!), mainly as fit me OK, the quality is no better than Van Rysel stuff as far as I can tell.
Got bibs from Castelli, Le Col, Dimarchi and Endura, all fairly similar in quality, Castelli best fit for me. Wouldn't pay their full prices though.
Recently bought some 3/4 from Galibier, seem pretty good but haven't used them yet!
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Über Member
That’s a good question! Moreover, some jerseys now cost £200+ :ohmy:

Who’s spending £275 on a jersey from Rapha? Regardless of your wealth, this pricing takes the Mickey out of customers.

https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/jerseys?sortBy=products_en_price_descending

To be fair, quite a lot of people do (ride around Regent's Park or Richmond and you'll see many of them!). I was in the Lake District this week, last night four guys rode past me. Each of them was head to toe in Rapha PT aero gear and on bikes well north of £10k.
 

Webbo2

Veteran
I have four Rapha tops, 3 pairs of shorts and a pair of bib tights none of which have been bought at full price. I also have a pair of Le Col shorts again bought in a sale. While they are ok they don’t hold a candle to Assos stuff. However when Assos changed to their floating pad which I couldn’t get on with I stopped getting their stuff. But it’s much better made I have tights and tops that are well in to their teens.
 
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Happy_Days

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Same people paying £288 for that Pikiolabs helmet?
Both are extremely expensive. However, I reckon the £275 jersey is primarily about fashion, whereas Pikio’s helmet is primarily about impact protection.

I know which is more important to me, having experienced such a severe head injury when a car hit me that the doctors told me I was lucky to survive it.
 

Pblakeney

Über Member
Although, in the interests of balance, it much better pointed out that cycle helmets are not designed or intended to provide protection in the event of a vehicular collision, and all sold in the UK are clearly labeled as such on the packaging.

Also, pretty much any certified MIPS helmet for £30 would achieve the same.
More expensive versions may have better aerodynamics and/or ventilation but offer no more protection and are mostly about aesthetics.
 
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Happy_Days

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pretty much any certified MIPS helmet for £30 would achieve the same.
If that were true, why would Virginia Tech go to the trouble of testing different helmets?

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I have got jerseys and jackets from Rapha (in the sale!), mainly as fit me OK, the quality is no better than Van Rysel stuff as far as I can tell.
Got bibs from Castelli, Le Col, Dimarchi and Endura, all fairly similar in quality, Castelli best fit for me. Wouldn't pay their full prices though.
Recently bought some 3/4 from Galibier, seem pretty good but haven't used them yet!

I buy my stuff from Decathlon (Van Rysel jersey is good enough for me) or if Coospo has a sale for sensors / navigation units like they do now.

Not that I can’t afford the medium to high end stuff, but I don’t see how they can help my cycling. I’m no athlete and I don’t need no aero dynamic advantage.

Browsing through cycle websites I know on the look out for a big (5-6 L) waterproof handle bar bag + a nice front light.

Will end up buying from Temu or Ali express probably unless someone can redirect me to a better place.
 
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