Engine Displacement.

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Jameshow

Veteran
P6 V8s (had one myself) for the UK market were 135-141 BHP, depending upon exact spec (the auto had slightly milder cam profile so the cha ges under power werent too aggressive) and year. The motor was upped to 155ish for the introduction of the Leyland era SD1.

In the grand scheme it actually wasn't all that as a performer, but back in '71 when mine was made the average family car did around 50 horses so relatively speaking it probably seemed like it was powered by nuclear fusion.

Maybe it was something else with the V8 engine in it!!

Or maybe it was my simitar V6!
 

Drago

Legendary Member
The Ford V6 generally felt peppier.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
The supercharger on our T8 was very neatly integrated into the block. Very simple and clever...until it needs mending. Fortunately they appear very robust.

Superchargers are relatively easy to map for as they're rev dependent, whereas tubbies are rev and load dependent in their operation.
 

Jody

Stubborn git
Well there is the quad turbo Bugatti as well. :smile:

But I think a combination of supercharger and turbo is still more complex than three, four, or ten turbos, no?

Turbos like the BMW above are compounding with a mixture of smaller and larger turbos running though each other so will need a fairly complex inlet/exhaust manifold setup. Coupled with the turbos being VGT which adds another layer of complexity for the engine management.

Something like the Bugatti doesn't compound with one turbo per 4 cylinders of each bank all provising equal levels of boost.

Supercharger/Turbo like the 1.4 VW isn't too complex with the SC covering boost at low RPM until the turbo can take over. The S/C effectively bleeds it's boost at that point from either a clutch on the S/C or an internal flap (can't remember which) allowing pressure to escape. It wasn't a great setup which is why VW only ran it for a short period of time.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
The fuel usage if the 150 TDI auto will be better than the manual 102 TDI as it's always holding the right revs. That's my experience of my t5.1

Interesting, all the T6 boys on the fb groups I joined reckoned that whilst slow the 102HP 5 speed manual was slow but the most economic with the 150 Autos being a bit thirsty as people tended to drive them a bit harder.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
I wonder if the smax might have been a better choice? A sportier mondeo SUV than the galaxy. We tried one and it was a nice drive. Not much difference from the mondeo hatch we drove. That mondeo was a higher power version near the top of the range. Went a bit faster than the smax, but not by much.

The mondeo was a 2.2tdci at 180bhp I think. Not as fast as a scooby I once drove but it felt the second fastest car I drove.

Maybe, but neither of us are speedsters these days with the precious Whippets in the back...wafting is now our style.
I've driven the SMax - it's a great car, but to be honest the increased interior volume of the Galaxy works for us. My old buying criteria was the most boot space for the least money for which the Dacia Logan was a clear winner!!!
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Did they sort the power shift auto box on the galaxy is it was a rubbish copy of VW dsg..

Perhaps they went back to a true slush box...?🤔

Dunno! It's a 7 speed auto. Not as good as the VW DSG, but smooth enough. To tow the van it's much happier in Sport mode with the slightly higher revs. The standard setting seem optimised for quite low revage.

Nothing (yet ) tops the Fiat 9 speed auto and 160hp diesel combo we had on our last PVC - went like an express train and smoother than silk, a triumph!
 
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Time Waster

Veteran
When I was a youth there was a lad in the village had one in an Anglia, it came from a Capri that had been totalled.

A lad I knew through kayaking had a mate into cars and tinkering. His mate put a large, powerful engine into something like an escort. Can't remember the details but it sounded like a total re-engineering job on the whole car. The finished product went like a rocket but every few months he had to take it into the garage and make sure the bodywork was still fully attached to the car. The engine basically shook it apart if no action taken. The mate was not as good an engineer as he thought he was.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
A lad I knew through kayaking had a mate into cars and tinkering. His mate put a large, powerful engine into something like an escort. Can't remember the details but it sounded like a total re-engineering job on the whole car. The finished product went like a rocket but every few months he had to take it into the garage and make sure the bodywork was still fully attached to the car. The engine basically shook it apart if no action taken. The mate was not as good an engineer as he thought he was.

There used to be a big 'Custom Car' culture in the late 70's early 80's, mate of mine (Andy Wynn) had an Escort van. The Van got nicked and after a couple of weeks the feds found it and rang Andy to say so but it had been stripped but they'd bring it back.............Well the one piece rear door* was gone ditto the bonnet with scoop and the wheels plus the seats (Recaro) but the thieves must have been a bit thick cos they'd left the 1.8 BDA engine, the 5 speed Quaife gearbox and chromed Jaguar IRS, the bits worth the most money.

* simple to do, you use the tailgate from an Escort Estate
 

gbb

Legendary Member
Location
Peterborough
Dunno about the Duster / 1.0 ltr combo, looking recently at Skoda SUVs and the Karoq has a 1.0 in the line up. Seems unfeasibly small imo. The reviews say it's OK, a bit lacking punch at times.
My MIL had a 1.0 Renault Clio, maybe 2018. She said it was fine until you hit hills of any sort, you soon realised what what missing .
So what it's like in something larger ?

2.0 naturally aspirated in the Mazda. Fairly gutsy, economical, seems to have power available through the range. 2.0 is apparently the perfect size, something to do with displacement vs stroke ratio (or something like that)
Goes really well if you get the revs up, easily achives 50mpg, have managed pushing 60 on some long runs.

Unless you compare everything across the board, engine life expectancy, maintenance costs across its life, reliability, economy, emissions etc etc...its difficult to say whether one's better than the other
 
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