swee'pea99
Squire
That may be the most English comment I've seen on this thread. Make that forum.
England vs New Zealand - Spoilers
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I've got to agree Rich. There is no shame in that result at all, quite the opposite in fact. Plus, I'll bet the players enjoyed it as much as the spectators! Nobody likes to lose but what a way to play! As the cliché goes, the game's the winner.
And just for the record, I reckon England would have got there if it weren't for the rain. They had the momentum. The revised total was just too steep (and that's not intended as a criticism of DL)
And just for the record, I reckon England would have got there if it weren't for the rain. They had the momentum. The revised total was just too steep (and that's not intended as a criticism of DL)
Probably came over as a bit tiff upper lip, but I meant it in an Aussie way!
Play aggressive and attacking cricket even if you ultimately lose rather than a conservative, damage-limitation approach.
I dont think that in the Aussie vocabulary the words "lose" and "honourable" co-exist
nickyboy
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The key is that England played in a way that gave them a chance to chase down a massive score. In the old days they'd have been shell shocked and capitulated 200 ao. I doubt there's much pleasure in losing like that in the England dressing room though. At least I hope not
I think in the past England teams have fought hard despite the odds - trouble is there is not much point taking a knife to a gunfight - wrong personnel and the wrong plan - Paul Fabrace was part of the set up under the previous regime - has the removal of Moores removed the handcuffs - or is the Aussie in waiting pulling the strings behind the scenes (edit - or for that matter is the newly appointed director of cricket pulling the strings)
swee'pea99
Squire
Don't get me wrong...it was meant jokingly, nothing else. I agree with the real sentiment 100%.
It is Sunday it is Southampton – 3rd ODI – all square – England win toss and will bat
After the runfests of the previous two matches what I would like to see today is a pitch where there is something in it for the bowlers – be difficult to judge though – Plunkett and Jordan out with strains– though Wood is expected to return – which on the basis of his test performances would seem to be a fair swap – although at the expense of the robust batting of Plunkett – David Willey is expected to return (not sure if return is the right expression as his only ODI was the abandoned match in Ireland which lasted for 24overs) to replace Jordan (who notwithstanding his fantastic catching and athletic fielding is a bit lightweight with the ball and bat) – Brave new world – Hales, Roy, Billings, Rashid, Wood, & Willey have one more ODI cap between than the next most experienced man – Stokes with 27
After the runfests of the previous two matches what I would like to see today is a pitch where there is something in it for the bowlers – be difficult to judge though – Plunkett and Jordan out with strains– though Wood is expected to return – which on the basis of his test performances would seem to be a fair swap – although at the expense of the robust batting of Plunkett – David Willey is expected to return (not sure if return is the right expression as his only ODI was the abandoned match in Ireland which lasted for 24overs) to replace Jordan (who notwithstanding his fantastic catching and athletic fielding is a bit lightweight with the ball and bat) – Brave new world – Hales, Roy, Billings, Rashid, Wood, & Willey have one more ODI cap between than the next most experienced man – Stokes with 27
AndyRM
XOXO
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Gunned by the rain the other day which is a shame, but the turnaround in approach to ODI is pleasing. New Zealand play in a really entertaining way and I'm enjoying England matching it. Australia will be watching with interest I suspect, and ramping up their levels of aggression.
Dayvo
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I've heard that the Eng - NZ games so far have been in a very friendly and sporting manner, which I am a big fan of. Hard, aggressive cricket can still be played without the nastiness.
Unfortunately, Australia, I suspect, will revert to type, which is unnecessary, as they are good enough without the aggro.
Nobbers!
Unfortunately, Australia, I suspect, will revert to type, which is unnecessary, as they are good enough without the aggro.
Nobbers!
Dayvo
just passin' through
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I agree with PS's quote of the 'brave new world' crop of players. If we could get a decent captain (ie a tactician AND capable with bat and/or ball) and a couple of real quicks, then we've got the basis of a promising team.
Just keep No (hair) Herr Strauß away from the team.
Just keep No (hair) Herr Strauß away from the team.
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Sorry guys, it's my fault. I looked at the live score this morning and 2 wickets fell. I've just looked again
I'll go walk the dogs now and won't look again into the NZ innings. Promise.
Oi, come back...
Sounds a good match on TMS - oh FFS here's Tuffers and his whiny voice
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Anyone have a clue what this nobber is going on about, email sent to TMS:
"Duckworth Lewis is the best we have and by use of historical records is predictive in the context of the means of history. It cannot possibly handle improbable though possible outcomes. It is unlikely to be very good at handling the outlier scores we have seen recently until such time as they become common place."
"Duckworth Lewis is the best we have and by use of historical records is predictive in the context of the means of history. It cannot possibly handle improbable though possible outcomes. It is unlikely to be very good at handling the outlier scores we have seen recently until such time as they become common place."
