EV Owners Thread

[Richard A Thackeray]

Looks very similar to a lot of Vauxhalls. And a 44kwh battery ? Is it a very small car ?

Absolutely no idea at all

 

[icowden]

Looks very similar to a lot of Vauxhalls. And a 44kwh battery ? Is it a very small car ?

No - it's a medium sized SUV. It seems to be being marketed as a cheap runaround SUV. There is an 83kwh model in the works which will increase range from 180 miles to 250 miles. The base model is only £18 to £20k though which makes it quite affordable. It's limited to 100kwh charging speed so not the fastest to refuel either.
https://www.carwow.co.uk/vauxhall/frontera-electric#gref

 

[figbat]

No - it's a medium sized SUV. It seems to be being marketed as a cheap runaround SUV. There is an 83kwh model in the works which will increase range from 180 miles to 250 miles. The base model is only £18 to £20k though which makes it quite affordable. It's limited to 100kwh charging speed so not the fastest to refuel either.
https://www.carwow.co.uk/vauxhall/frontera-electric#gref

250 miles from 83 kWh?! That’s awful!

 

[icowden]

250 miles from 83 kWh?! That’s awful!

It's about what I get in an ID4 Pro.

 

[figbat]

It's about what I get in an ID4 Pro.

3 mi/kWh?! That’s like the EV version of a gas guzzler!

 

[icowden]

3 mi/kWh?! That’s like the EV version of a gas guzzler!

Disappointingly - yes. I suspect that Vauxhall, like Volkswagen are using stock parts rather than going to the extra cost that companies like Tesla have gone to to create stuff specifically for EV.

For example if you try to jump start an ICE car from a Tesla, your Tesla will likely die as it will kill the 12v battery. In the ID4 not a problem because the 12v battery is the same one they use in their ICE cars and weighs about 16kg. Tesla now use lithium ones that weigh <10kg. A Tesla Y weighs 350kg less than an ID4. That makes a substantial difference to range.

The streamlining coefficient of a Tesla is usually around 0.2, the ID4 is 0.28.

Finally, Tesla constantly monitor their battery software and release updates that improve things. VW barely update anything.

 

[figbat]

Disappointingly - yes. I suspect that Vauxhall, like Volkswagen are using stock parts rather than going to the extra cost that companies like Tesla have gone to to create stuff specifically for EV.

For example if you try to jump start an ICE car from a Tesla, your Tesla will likely die as it will kill the 12v battery. In the ID4 not a problem because the 12v battery is the same one they use in their ICE cars and weighs about 16kg. Tesla now use lithium ones that weigh <10kg.

The streamlining coefficient of a Tesla is usually around 0.2, the ID4 is 0.28.

Finally, Tesla constantly monitor their battery software and release updates that improve things. VW barely update anything.

My EV is made from an ICE platform but manages an official 4.3 mi/kWh and I routinely exceed 5 in the summer. It has a small traction battery though, which helps with efficiency (and handling/performance) but limits range.

 

[icowden]

My EV is made from an ICE platform but manages an official 4.3 mi/kWh and I routinely exceed 5 in the summer. It has a small traction battery though, which helps with efficiency (and handling/performance) but limits range.

Wow! What do you have?

 

[Jameshow]

Wow! What do you have?

Dacia Spring?!

 

[figbat]

Wow! What do you have?

MINI

 

[albion]

3 mi/kWh?! That’s like the EV version of a gas guzzler!

That is why switching to active travel should be priority government policy.
100 mi/kWh. Even better on active analogue.

 

[icowden]

MINI

Rates quite well for efficiency. Unlike the ID4

 

[DRM]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/-xk2nMiDfF8?si=4XHlLT_9ayHzNUBP

I wonder what the MPG of this is?

 

[DRM]

Wednesday 10th

During a short break in Norfolk. we had a trip to Norwich
We were told there's a 'Park & RIde', & the closest to our location/easiest travelling was at Sprowston

To our surprise, it was £3 return, then.....
When we got on, the driver told us it was £2 return, as we were together, a 'Duo' as he phrased it!!!
(the only car-park we saw was about £6 for 3 hours!!)

And, it was an electric bus!!
View attachment 786798

York Park & Ride are now using electric buses too, they don't half shift!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

York Park & Ride are now using electric buses too, they don't half shift!

It's been a while since we've used York P&R, it was usually the Tadcaster Road service by the Tesco/below the racecourse