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col

Legendary Member
What has been said is great advice BTFB,you will undoubtedly hit a sticking point,but this is normal in wieght loss,just carry on,and like has been said,put i bit more into the hills and knock a little time off your loops,it wont be long before you start loosing again.:ohmy:
 
Location
Midlands
I ditto Noodley - gym particulaly over the winter months - I try to keep it fairly short 30-45mins of CV or resistance on alternative workouts - CV at a level a little above what I can maintain for 1.5 - 2 hours on the bike (sort of level that you would run into something or fall off if you did it on road) plus abs and a twenty minute swim at the end - the swimming I find keeps the upper body in better shape with corresponding improvement in my stamina - tends to be my shoulders & upper back that give out before my legs when i am touring - abs are good if you are going to do any BIG (galiber isere et.al) hills - less likely to have sore abdomen the day after
 
To lose weight at the rate you first did will require significantly more effort. You burn many more calories per hour effort when you are unfit compared to when you are fit. Remember how you felt when you did your first loops? You'd have to replicate that feeling by doing more in order to lose the same amount. The only suppliments that I can think of have dubious legality. Amphetamines increase the metabolism and were used for years as a weight loss drug. Ecstasy started out the same way. Testosterone suppliment in the form of TestoGel would have a similar effect. None of these are really recommended though, the best way is as your fitness level increases, increase the effort and you will burn more fat. I have the same problem as you. My legs now look fine, but I'm still a flabbly wreck under the shirt, I've found that by getting a gym programme which focusses entirely on the upper body (in my case chest and stomach) I have noticed results. But it takes a longer than you think.
 

bonj2

Guest
try going on the crunch machine in the gym and instead of finding the limit of what weight you can do and doing this on small numbers of reps, try doing sets of about 100 reps fairly fast on not too heavy a weight so you're straining at it but heavy enough for it to be mildly strenuous. Drink water then repeat. Maybe rowing machine in between. If you're not in a gym, then sit-ups.
 
I'd suggest, time permitting, of course, an hour of brisk walking (or two sessions of 30 mins) every day.
Remember that muscle weighs more than fat, so the weight your scales tell you might make you think you're not losing anything/enough.
Have a another look at your diet, and see if you can change things around. Avoid excess sugar/sugary products, and stay focused.
Good luck
 

domtyler

Über Member
Dayvo said:
I'd suggest, time permitting, of course, an hour of brisk walking (or two sessions of 30 mins) every day.
Remember that muscle weighs more than fat, so the weight your scales tell you might make you think you're not losing anything/enough.
Have a another look at your diet, and see if you can change things around. Avoid excess sugar/sugary products, and stay focused.
Good luck

Walking will not burn too many calories, good advice for an old or very out of shape person but BTFB is already burning loads of cals and getting good exercise every day. As long as he can keep his motivation going strong through adding variation and maybe entering an audax or something then he will do just fine in the long term. Absolutely no need to go messing with drugs or snake oil treatments.
 

walker

New Member
Location
Bromley, Kent
I'd suggest not trying to lose fat too quickly, you can be left with permanent physical scars. For example you can be left with rubbery skin that doesn't shift, take it easy, do not what ever you do do anything drastic. as others have said, try and challenge your body in different ways. shock it into some running, rowing, weight lifting (adding more muscle to the body burns fat faster than normal and raises motabolism), or as you said swimming. I can't stress enough to not go down the roads of 'lose fat quick' pills.


How big are you?
 

walker

New Member
Location
Bromley, Kent
Also sit ups for the larger members of our comunuity are not a great start, the muscle under the fat on your stomach gets stronger and more taut, thus pushing the fat you have out further, making you appear bigger than you was before, ab work does,'t generally burn fat at all unless your doing around 500 crunches in 5 minutes.
 
try doing some upper body weights excercises.,light weight ,high reps.this will tone the muscles under the "fat" you think you have there. when you've been doing it a while and the muscles have good tone you may be suprised to find that you're not carrying as much fat there as you thought.
sit ups are good for toning the muscles but whilst the muscles are covered with fat ,you'll never see them.
theres an ad on the telly now for some electronic tone thing. it shows washboard abs etc. that will not happen unless they lose all the fat covering them. it's a bit of a con (allegedly) really.
i've been reading of your progress since joining the forum and think you're doing great, don't risk spoiling it by looking for a quick fix.they don't exist.good luck
 

Blue

Legendary Member
Location
N Ireland
B vitamins are supposed to help with fat burning. I used a B complex supplement for a while and it seems to help me.

Having said that, I wouldn't argue with what has already been said in this thread.
 
BTFB, you're doing great as it is, and when you feel impatient, re-read Domtyler's messages.

Those fat-burning products are for people who have more money than sense. No serious dietician or trainer will recommend them.

You might try cycling more slowly to make sure that you are in the fat-burning zone (this is really difficult but worth it). Have another look at your diet to check its glycemic index - for instance are you eating wholewheat pasta or white pasta?

Get some cross-training in too. No I don't mean angry cycling. Try swimming, using gym machines, anything that can startle the body out of the cycling groove that it's in. It will be more interesting for you and will bring results.

Actually swimming would have a great benefit for you if you are a good enough swimmer to get a good workout i.e. 30 strokes or less (front crawl) per length of pool. If you're not that good, you won't go fast enough to get a training effect. I took lessons which sorted my technique out, and after a few months noticed a huge difference in my upper body and shoulders. All gone now, unfortunately.

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Bigtallfatbloke

Bigtallfatbloke

New Member
Thanks for all the comments...I think the answer for me will be found in the swimming pool...much as I dread the endless lengths and filthy changing rooms...perhaps when it gets REALLY cold outside I might find the will to get wet again...
 
That's the spirit. A change of scene, a couple of new objectives, and you can mix the training up to make it more interesting - catch-ups, chicken wings, legs only, sprints, extending your bilateral breathing. Pay the pool's instructor for a few lessons and tips - it will be worth it and you'll be able to tap him for ideas later.
 
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