Finally Justice for victims of revenge porn site - 18 years Jail

[AndyRM]

Howzabout actually replying?

See post #57.

 

[ufkacbln]

See post #57.

I already asked this, but... Dude. Seriously?

We've been creating naked images of each other for many years. That's unlikely to change.

Hammering twats who exploit folk is a good thing.

Which fails miserably to discuss, answer or respond to any of the later points

 

[ufkacbln]

This....why do people feel they have to pay hundreds to remove images of them having sex...is sex illegal...are those that practice it perverts, deviants...weirdos?

how could this lead to people loosing their jobs...what, like..."we are sacking you because you chose to have sex with someone"


For the record and to avoid any potential blackmail attempt in the future...I am a man who has sex, there, I've admitted it now, sorry for any offence.

The problem is that things have changed from the simplistic world.

The on-line world is becoming a source for employers and the consequences of the content are increasing

It is another can of worms, but people have been sacked where employer has decided that the contents of a site have been inappropriate and do not fit in withthe standrads or ethos of the firm. This has ranged from porn sites, Farcebok, Twatter, Instagram and a whole range of others.

The naive though that anything electronic is or will remain to be private and confidential is one that needs to be changed

 

[User482]

Maybe some fuddy-duddies on here don't understand that in most cases the 'sharing' isn't public - it's between the two people concerned.

This. Relationships are built on trust, and to betray that trust in such a way is a particularly nasty thing to do. I find some of the attitudes on this thread staggering.

 

[slowmotion]

I'm delighted that the reptile who ran the website is going to jail. He must have caused appalling anguish to a large number of people. The blackmail angle is extremely nasty. The people who offered the images and the details of the person involved are beyond contempt. I'm unclear if they will be pursued through legal channels. I hope so. It's a rather depressing look into the darker side of human nature. The best that can become of it, I guess, is that people will realise that you really don't want iffy images floating about on the internet. Images taken in a moment of trust that can be betrayed.

 

[ufkacbln]

Oh dear Cunobelin, I think you need to google the story of falling out of lust, and betrayal, that lay behind 'The Leg of Mutton Portrait' [NSFW]. It's a self-portrait by Stanley Spencer, gazing at his then wife Patricia Preece, full of disillusion and sadness, She tried to blackmail him a little bit with it and other images because of the social mores of the times (late 1930s), but he wasn't ashamed of it and it's a masterpiece of artistic honesty. There is nothing new under the sun.

You can only either blackmail or not - you can't blackmail "a little"

... and of course the question is whether he had her consent to display this image, or is it simply another case of "revenge porn"?

 

[Dan B]

The naive though that anything electronic is or will remain to be private and confidential is one that needs to be changed

Do you deal with your bank, your lawyer and your doctor entirely face to face and by posted handwritten letters, or do you reasonably expect your communications with them to remain private despite their being electronic?

 

[Inertia]

A false analogy.

One is something done consensually (the making of an image) - the other is a non-consensual (burglary). To suggest the two are analogous is just silly.

I though the analogy was fair though Im happy to learn Im wrong?

One is something done consensually (the making of an image for private use) - the other is a non-consensual (the publication of that image on a website.)

One is something done consensually (owning a bike) - the other is non-consensual (theft of that bike).

 

[Arrowfoot]

Do you deal with your bank, your lawyer and your doctor entirely face to face and by posted handwritten letters, or do you reasonably expect your communications with them to remain private despite their being electronic?

[QUOTE 3631596, member: 9609"]there is specific confidentiality laws that govern in those cases, so it would be reasonable to assume those will remain 100% confidential.

don't misunderstand me here, I am not defending 'revenge porn' I would lock the perpetrators up - but what specific laws are they breaking?[/QUOTE]

For the US, they used laws in relation to creating false ID and extortion for this case. I believe UK just enacted laws for online harrassment ( revenge porn ) but US has yet to. The hesitation is that law enforcement and public resources maybe consumed by petty squabbles. Separating squabbles to the serious cases is where the challenge is. An easy way is to put it on the content carriers but you have industry lobby operating. Recall the Twitter harrassment suicide episode.

 

[MacB]

No it's not. You can have a perfectly robust attitude to sex and nudity and still not want pictures of yourself splashed all over the net.

Trying to conflate revenge sites with porn is just daft.

I'm not trying to equate porn and revenge, stop trying to twist my meaning to suit the replies you want to give

 

[MontyVeda]

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But that wasn't what was being compared.

it was.. amongst other things.

 

[MacB]

I didn't say "equate" - I said "conflate". Who's trying to twist things to suit themselves?

ah, spin off Reg, I can't be arsed

 

[ufkacbln]

Do you deal with your bank, your lawyer and your doctor entirely face to face and by posted handwritten letters, or do you reasonably expect your communications with them to remain private despite their being electronic?

Let me put you in touch with reality



Link 1


How many links do you need to face the reality that electronic records are NOT safe


Link2

I work in the NHS and have opted out of the Summary Care record because I am fully aware of how fragile the records are

Then we come tothe reality with banks:

Link 1


Or both?

link 1


How many links do you need before you face the reality that electronic records are NOT safe

 

[ufkacbln]

You can only either blackmail or not - you can't blackmail "a little"

... and of course the question is whether he had her consent to display this image, or is it simply another case of "revenge porn"?

<sigh> Whoosh.

Sorry if that was too complex for you

Lets break it down and make it as simple as possible.......

Is blackmail acceptable or unacceptable?

If I blackmail you a "little bit" by asking for £5 not to revel your dark secrets is that more acceptable than blackmailing you a "lot" by asking for £20,000 not to reveal your dark secrets

 

[MontyVeda]

what the feck has electronic data got to do with anything.. this is about the betrayal of trust, public humiliation and blackmail.. .the platform on which that was performed is irrelevant.