FNRttC - could it be a club?

[dellzeqq]

I'm saying nothing..........

Having spoken to Werner at the LCC Awards ceremony (pauses to simper to camera) we're going to look at Reigate Hill again, and make changes. Werner made the point that with 1000 riders rather than 350 it might be safer - with fewer cyclist on their own crossing the path of cars turning left toward Merstham.

 

[Flying Dodo]

None of us doubt their expertise.... but in the unlikely event of litigation how would that stand up?

Imagine the BANG on the Brighton ride happening not immediately after puncture had been mended as on that occasion, but halfway down a fast descent a few minutes later...potential for serious accident. Did the TEC check the maximum pressure printed on the sidewall of the tyre? did he have a recently calibrated gauge on his pump ?

We all know this is pretty fanciful....but would a potential insurer see it that way? Does making the TECs "Ride Leaders" give them any particular standing or protection from malicious prosecution?

I've got witnesses - I told him that both tyres he'd been using were no good!!

 

[User10119]

I know that the 'free' thing is important to the spirit of the ride, but I have to say that I think that a quid to try it out and then 12 quid to get the affiliated membership stuff with bonus 3rd party insurance is a blinding good deal.

Dellzeqq made some comment in passing to me on the way to Cleethorpes about the fact that it was the CTC insurance and ride leader stuff that made it feasible for him to run these rides, so I went away and did a bit of looking on the internet and paid up up for a family membership for the lot of us (although I do believe that we already had 3rd party insurance under our household stuff), although it was and is fairly unlikely that I'l be taking part in a southern FNRTTC beause of geography and work stuff, not to mention The Fear that I have of That London. It seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

 

[Aperitif]

I've got witnesses - I told him that both tyres he'd been using were no good!!

I'll witness that!
His spare tyre was rigid, ungiving, irregular, soft in parts and hard in others - completely the opposite to my spare tyre which is regular, rounded, smooth, equal, and of even consistency, and remains so when 'inflated'.

To be serious: If a rider puts his or her faith in the equipment they turn up with - that's the deal. Many times (not a problem) anyone who has had a little difficulty, has found themselves in a better state to continue than when they arrived. (Often thanks to Tim Os pannier, for the more exotic stuff, or Adrian disappearing into the night...)
New tubes, tyres, once a cable, 'missing links' for 6789 and 10 speed Campag and Shimano - whatever, are dispensed...to get people on the move again and restore confidence. It is part of the 'education' that goes on I guess, although Tim has never educated me into carrying all that c*** along 'just in case'. There would be no room for cake and hipflask(s).

 

[GrumpyGregry]

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I know that the 'free' thing is important to the spirit of the ride, but I have to say that I think that a quid to try it out and then 12 quid to get the affiliated membership stuff with bonus 3rd party insurance is a blinding good deal.

Dellzeqq made some comment in passing to me on the way to Cleethorpes about the fact that it was the CTC insurance and ride leader stuff that made it feasible for him to run these rides, so I went away and did a bit of looking on the internet and paid up up for a family membership for the lot of us (although I do believe that we already had 3rd party insurance under our household stuff), although it was and is fairly unlikely that I'l be taking part in a southern FNRTTC beause of geography and work stuff, not to mention The Fear that I have of That London. It seemed like a reasonable thing to do.
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I used to work in insurance. I would read your household policy very very carefully, and may even get confirmation in writing that it covers you for 3rd party risks whilst in charge of a bicycle on the public highways away from your home.

 

[Ravenbait]

I feel like a thicky.

What does TEC stand for?

Sam

 

[User10119]

I used to work in insurance. I would read your household policy very very carefully, and may even get confirmation in writing that it covers you for 3rd party risks whilst in charge of a bicycle on the public highways away from your home.

Well, it wouldn't matter either way since we are all dutifully 3rd partied up through the CTC as well now

However that wasn't my motivation for joining - I joined primarily as a way of indirectly supporting the FNRttC and wouldn't have joined were it not for the FNRttC. If the FNRttC forms a club or whatever, in order to ensure that it can keep running and that Dellzeqq (supported by the TECs and so on) can keep running them without exposing himself to an unacceptable risk of in-sewer-ants rubbishness then I'd probably join that too, even if I'm not very likely to come along. Some ventures deserve support, and HPC is a bit far to bring you all a cake on a Friday night.

 

[benborp]

I feel like a thicky.

What does TEC stand for?

Sam

TECs are 'tail end charlies' that provide technical/moral support and sweep along the back of the ride. I believe they run on cake. Fluid levels also seem to require regular topping up.

 

[benborp]

Also, they often travel as a pack in close formation.

 

[Aperitif]

Now, now Ben.

 

[frank9755]

I find that if you stand around at a junction on an FNRttC night, doing a spot of waymarking, eventually a group of them will roll up. They are recognisable from their distinctive cry of 'all up!'

 

[benborp]

Now, now Ben.

Which is it you need? Cake or beer?

 

[Aperitif]

 

[benborp]

There you go. That should keep you rolling for another couple of miles.

 

[Aperitif]

Wow! - looks like Zimzum's old heap- but edible!