not a bad thought. Frequent trains from Llandudno Junction to Chester. Colwyn Bay's not entirely awful, either - well, except for the fact that the DfT decided to build a motorway slap through it...........Liverpool to Llandudno.
not a bad thought. Frequent trains from Llandudno Junction to Chester. Colwyn Bay's not entirely awful, either - well, except for the fact that the DfT decided to build a motorway slap through it...........Liverpool to Llandudno.
not a bad thought. Frequent trains from Llandudno Junction to Chester. Colwyn Bay's not entirely awful, either - well, except for the fact that the DfT decided to build a motorway slap through it...........
well Mike E and I shared beers with those same locals when we went there, and we thought ourselves blessed. But, then again, neither of us have the kind of airs and graces that might raise a bit of autochthonous dander.I agree Dell, I like Cleethorpes and in fact my dad liked it so much he was born there! It was more a reference to the No2 Refreshment Rooms at the train station where the residents of Top-Town were already taking an early brunch when we arrived.
well Mike E and I shared beers with those same locals when we went there, and we thought ourselves blessed. But, then again, neither of us have the kind of airs and graces that might raise a bit of autochthonous dander.
The big fly in the ointment would be permission to use the Birkenhead tunnel but cycling events do go through it, so it's not totally alien to them. The rest I don't know. It just suddenly occurred to me as having some of the right things going for it.
Not that I'm casting aspersions on your charms or Mike E's, but if this is the case then I'll put money on them not being exactly those same locals...
So Bicester to Severn Beach isn't really grabbing you, then?
How about (and this has just popped into my head, so I have not thought it through at all) Glasgow/Edinburgh to Ardrossan? What's at Ardrossan, I hear you ask... it is a ferry port - destination Brodick on Arran. First ferry 7am (I did check that much). Or you could go to one of the other islands - Bute, maybe? Ardrossan is good because there are plenty of trains (I think...)
There remain interesting and varied possibilities in the south east. A mere 75 miles or so from HPC with not too much climbing, there a city with such attractions as a fine example of high-rise modern architecture & a well-worn football stadium, and the opportunity not only to have breakfast in a mere cafe, but a castle no less. And with frequent services to Victoria, Waterloo, and both west and eastwards.
I'm not getting my hopes up.....
Shame that Oban didn't make the cut as the very short midsummer nights up there make for something a bit different and the roads are very quiet, but I expect the logistics might have been challenging.
But, if suggestions are wanted, I think that the one that is crying out to be done is Bruges. Ride to Harwich, then the ferry to Hoek is, in my opinion, the least unpleasant form of ex-UK international travel. They even have decent food! Its then about 130km to Bruges, which is a great destination with quality beer aplenty to wash down the moules frites!
To come home, there is an easy connection to the Eurostar, or, for the ride-backers, pedal to Oostende or Calais and get the ferry.
There are plenty of variations - obviously Amsterdam if people don't mind flying home or Gent spring to mind. Brussels would be good but unfortunately it's a bit shite.
I've ridden from Hoek-Amsterdam, and a fair bit around Bruges, and it is all wonderful cycling of the pancake flat[sup]™[/sup] variety.
The only issue is that I think it would work best as a day ride from London, an overnight ferry, then a day ride from Hoek to Bruges, so not much night riding! But maybe the day ferry would work too...?
someone needs to write a book, 3BM - a ply yourself!
Hummers has been on at me to go to Portsmouth for years.There remain interesting and varied possibilities in the south east. A mere 75 miles or so from HPC with not too much climbing, there a city with such attractions as a fine example of high-rise modern architecture & a well-worn football stadium, and the opportunity not only to have breakfast in a mere cafe, but a castle no less. And with frequent services to Victoria, Waterloo, and both west and eastwards.
I'm not getting my hopes up.....
fewer fights on a Saturday night?Courtesy of Bicester village, a fine Tescos and Jones the Winemerchants, Bicester has better upmarket shopping than anywhere in the Southeast outside London - it's a metaphorical Mecca for every Saudi princeling and Japanese Shogunette that visits the UK. It has a one-way system with no logic to it, fine old buildings that have been comprehensively trashed by modern retail development, acres and acres of shoe-box jerry-built housing estates, a pedestrian precinct with concrete sheep and two railway stations on different lines. What more does an upstanding civic centre of some importance need?
you did, and you were not alone, but it's not quite hitting that Oban button. And, now I start to concentrate a bit, rather than dream, Edinburgh to Dundee looks a better bet.Did I mention Rothesay, on Bute, by any chance? Ardrossan is pretty and has a nice beach (though I didn't see chips and beer), but it's not exactly a challenging ride from Glasgow.