Sh4rkyBloke said:Err, it's Manchester actually.![]()
Oops. Sorry, I just skim read most of it after you explained how you were telling someone how to ride!
Sh4rkyBloke said:Err, it's Manchester actually.![]()
Notsoblue said:Oops. Sorry, I just skim read most of it after you explained how you were telling someone how to ride!
Sh4rkyBloke said:Yes - that's right, folks, I saw Fozzy Bear / Kermit the Frog / Animal / Gonzo on a bike in Stretford this morning. I am unsure exactly which muppet he was as he was blazing through a red light and nearly taking out a ped who was crossing at the time.
We exchanged some pleasant banter:
Me: "It's still on red, you muppet"
Him: (nothing at this point)
When I caught him at the next set of lights, he'd stopped... but only as there were cars on their green filter light turning across our path. The lights changed just as I arrived and I went past him saying "Oh, you do stop at some of them then?".
At the next set (another junction with a filter allowing cars to pass in front of us) he caught up and spoke, and got an appropriate response:
Him: "I treat them as give way, I don't need you to tell me what I should be doing"
Me: "No, the law does that, but clearly you can't read"
Cue lights changing and me leaving him again. At the next set (which are red) he catches me again...
Him: "I've also read the research that says that in Big Cities it's safer to treat them as give way and not always stop on red" (or some such drivel)
Lights start to change..
Me: "Oh, right. That old chestnut!!" (and shaking of head as I leave him again)
When he finally caught me again about a mile later (at more lights on red) I waited for the 'other' lights (i.e. the ones controlling the traffic crossing our path on the crossroads) to go amber and started to clip in, thus moving forward slightly. 3 cars blatantly jumped the red as ours went green and I started off into the junction... he was just catching at this point and decided to try and point out that I was RLJing myself. Not sure quite how it's an RLJ, but as technically I did start before it changed to green (to get clipped in) I could let him partially have that one if it makes him feel better for his own shortcomings as a cyclist.
It's no wonder motorists see us as thinking we are a law unto ourselves!
Notsoblue said:Oops. Sorry, I just skim read most of it after you explained how you were telling someone how to ride!
spandex said:That's mad
FatFellaFromFelixstowe said:Sounds like you were commuter racing monkey boy. Raleigh shoppers do not count !
No problem, clearly you have the same reading skills as him.Notsoblue said:Oops. Sorry, I just skim read most of it after you explained how you were telling someone how to ride!
FatFellaFromFelixstowe said:I know, no brakes on any of those bikes
Sh4rkyBloke said:No problem, clearly you have the same reading skills as him.
I do make a point of mentioning such things at the time very loudly as basically I'd like to try and get the nearby car drivers 'on side' and let them know that we (cyclists) are not all clueless imbeciles who do what they want, and hopefully quell any anger they may be feeling after just seeing such a tw@t blatantly put others at risk just because he feels like it.
My attitude? I was merely making a comment about his lawbreaking activities. If that offended his sensitivities than maybe he shouldn't do it.Notsoblue said:Hey I know where you're coming from, I understand your position. But I know I'd be pretty pissed off if someone with your attitude accosted me on the street on my daily commute for going through a red. You have a right to be annoyed by other people's behaviour but its sanctimonious and just down right rude to speak to another adult in that way. Its not even like he jumped all the lights. I don't mean this to turn into another pointless pro/anti RLJ thread, but I just had to say how pious I thought your post was, sorry! You can go ahead and call me an idiot, or an imbecile, or a "tw@t" or whatever now for admitting I RLJ. Knock yourself out.![]()
FatFellaFromFelixstowe said:Sounds like you were commuter racing monkey boy. Raleigh shoppers do not count !