Garden grass laying question

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Speicher

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Dig it over properly. Tread it. Rake it. Tread it . Rake it. Then do the seed or turf or whatever. (I'd use turf, then water the hell out of it!)

What seed do you use? I have some small areas to put grass in, as I would like to make some of the borders smaller. I was advised against using turf as it contains "bugs" that will infiltrate the rest of the lawn. Something to do with banned pesticides I think.

When the lady in the house opposite had part of her lawn dug up, I asked if I could have a large quantity of the "clumps" of grass.
I sort of did a jigsaw effect and put tilled soil in the gaps, and that has worked well. Sadly the clumps were all sorts of shapes and sizes, and they were heavy because the soil attached to them was about ten centimetres deep.

The clumps of grass that I could not immediately use where stacked, grass side down, and they have broken down nicely, ready to be spread around. I will be using this for more extensions to the area of grass area.
 

Dave 123

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What seed do you use? I have some small areas to put grass in, as I would like to make some of the borders smaller. I was advised against using turf as it contains "bugs" that will infiltrate the rest of the lawn. Something to do with banned pesticides I think.

When the lady in the house opposite had part of her lawn dug up, I asked if I could have a large quantity of the "clumps" of grass.
I sort of did a jigsaw effect and put tilled soil in the gaps, and that has worked well. Sadly the clumps were all sorts of shapes and sizes, and they were heavy because the soil attached to them was about ten centimetres deep.

The clumps of grass that I could not immediately use where stacked, grass side down, and they have broken down nicely, ready to be spread around. I will be using this for more extensions to the area of grass area.


If I've got lots to do I will spend £100 plus on 20kg of specialist seed. If I just want to do odd bits I'll get a bag of Mr Fothergills 'best' seed.

Turf is fine though. The person probably refers to chafer grubs and the use of imidachloprid, which is banned. If you're in a wet area or your lawn is fairly damp you shouldn't get chafer grubs.
 

slowmotion

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[QUOTE 4777060, member: 9609"]I moved the turf that was down rather than cover it, much easier job than I thought. So now to seed the remaining bit. If I just like you say just keep raking it and treading it down. If I'm wanting the grass to be the same level as the wood edging, will I make the height of the soil a little lower (5mm) ? after seeding is it best to cover with sharp sand ? and when is best time to seed, is this still a little early ?


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How did you bend the 150 by 18mm board?:smile:

Edit: Sorry, I just went back to the board bending thread.
 
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screenman

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I always try and get a nice run off area for the lawn mower as this makes cutting the grass a lot easier, gravel etc. near the grass I find ends up on it when cutting unless very careful.
 

Dave 123

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[QUOTE 4777060, member: 9609"]I moved the turf that was down rather than cover it, much easier job than I thought. So now to seed the remaining bit. If I just like you say just keep raking it and treading it down. If I'm wanting the grass to be the same level as the wood edging, will I make the height of the soil a little lower (5mm) ? after seeding is it best to cover with sharp sand ? and when is best time to seed, is this still a little early ?


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I like the curve, very graceful.

I would make the soil level to the board. This will help the edge of the lawn not collapse, and also, if you make the soil lower than the board you're likely to catch the mower along the edge of the board as you will get bits of sinkage- either breaking the board or creating a little dip at the edge where the grass will be longer.

Seed sowing wise, you need the night time temps to be way up on what they are now. In an ideal world it would be 10 degrees, so I'd hold off for a bit.

Sharp sand certainly won't hurt, but it isn't necessary.

It's looking good!
 

Justinslow

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[QUOTE 4777060, member: 9609"]I moved the turf that was down rather than cover it, much easier job than I thought. So now to seed the remaining bit. If I just like you say just keep raking it and treading it down. If I'm wanting the grass to be the same level as the wood edging, will I make the height of the soil a little lower (5mm) ? after seeding is it best to cover with sharp sand ? and when is best time to seed, is this still a little early ?


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Looks good, soil will still settle over time when it's been moved about and 5mm is barely here nor there so I'd get it somewhere near to the required level or even slightly higher as it will only go one way and it's never upwards. Yeah keep raking down and removing debris, large stones and roots, you don't want to go mad though particularly if it's wet, you don't want to turn it into a road! For the grass to grow nicely it needs a "nice" seedbed.
Seeding should be Autumn or Spring ideally, for us here in Suffolk we've had bugger all rain for ages so seeding anything hasn't been particularly effective. Generally speaking though any time now should be fine as it's getting warmer and grass needs +7 degrees c average to grow. Watering artificially is a pain on seeded areas as you tend to wash the soil into a "cap" when it dries out as people tend to over water, grass doesn't like this, if you do water do it very gently don't allow puddles to form.
The turf job I did a few weeks ago has no rain but the customer has been watering and it's all taken fine, in fact I cut it with the mower on Monday.
If I had a choice I would seed grass in Autumn here where I live as there's more chance of decent rainfall, the Spring can be really dry here in East Anglia.
 

Justinslow

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Just seen @Dave 123 post as I was writing mine and I'd agree with everything he said.
 
There is no problem on the planet for which plastic grass is the answer. Not one. Never, anywhere, ever. Heinous stuff.
Unless you fancy a lawn in your living room. :wacko:
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