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Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
I didn’t have the heart to say it wouldn’t be easy. I like your logic though: ‘Start in the middle and finish wherever you blinkin’ well like.’
I am intrigued by those two dark green squares in the lawn.
Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
[QUOTE 5227932, member: 9609"]what's the best way to get a tree stump out, how far would I have to dig down the side of it until it fell over ?[/QUOTE]
Do you know the type of tree? And what circumference or diameter is the trunk? Grubbing out is hard graft, but there are other ways depending on my questions.
Do you know the type of tree? And what circumference or diameter is the trunk? Grubbing out is hard graft, but there are other ways depending on my questions.
Dave 123
Legendary Member
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- Cambridgeshire alps
[QUOTE 5227932, member: 9609"]what's the best way to get a tree stump out, how far would I have to dig down the side of it until it fell over ?[/QUOTE]
Depends on so many things. Species,size.
Read the book ‘Shane’ by Jack Schaefer.
Pay someone to grind it out.
Depends on so many things. Species,size.
Read the book ‘Shane’ by Jack Schaefer.
Pay someone to grind it out.
Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
Cryptic. To do with homesteading?
keithmac
Guru
Thats new grass repair after the moles had been in, only been down a couple of weeks so hopefully it'll blend in!.
As for the fence I'm tied to how they built it in the first place as I'm trying to salvage it and cut it into panel sized chunks.
Decided to go for the middle so I can get access either side now.
Under no illusion it won't be easy!.
Credit to the orignal fencers though as I was pencilling the cut lines on, all the posts are bang on level using my 6 ft Stabila spirit level.
At least I've got something to work around rather than starting from scratch, could do with a shorter garden really..
Dave 123
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- Cambridgeshire alps
Shane the cowboy helps the bloke get the tree stump out while his wife gets the hots for Shane. It popped into my head as I wrote the post.
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Piemaster
Guru
- Location
- UK City of Culture
[QUOTE 5227932, member: 9609"]what's the best way to get a tree stump out, how far would I have to dig down the side of it until it fell over ?[/QUOTE]
I removed stumps of well into double figures of large shrub and an apple tree a couple of months ago, while the ground was very wet and easy as it was going to be to dig around. Took a lot of patience and an axe to cut roots. Not quite 'Shane' but...
I'd like to thank my MiL for the 20' tall miniature apple tree she gave us around 10 years ago.
Easiest way I've removed trees was in the last house, 6' tall leylandii. Length of chain and a Range Rover.
I removed stumps of well into double figures of large shrub and an apple tree a couple of months ago, while the ground was very wet and easy as it was going to be to dig around. Took a lot of patience and an axe to cut roots. Not quite 'Shane' but...
I'd like to thank my MiL for the 20' tall miniature apple tree she gave us around 10 years ago.
Easiest way I've removed trees was in the last house, 6' tall leylandii. Length of chain and a Range Rover.
Piemaster
Guru
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- UK City of Culture
[QUOTE 5228070, member: 9609"]Silver Birch, at about two foot up circ= 45" so Dia just over 14"
I have cut it off where red line is so there is still about 3m standing in case gettind a chain on it and pulling might help tip it over.
Idea is, dig a trench about 2' deep all the way round cutting all roots - question is would that be enough ?
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Looking at the size of it and the ones I removed probably not. Stump grinder.
I have cut it off where red line is so there is still about 3m standing in case gettind a chain on it and pulling might help tip it over.
Idea is, dig a trench about 2' deep all the way round cutting all roots - question is would that be enough ?
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Looking at the size of it and the ones I removed probably not. Stump grinder.
keithmac
Guru
[QUOTE 5228073, member: 9609"]I'm guessing the old posts are rotten and starting to fail ?
if you have access to the other side why bother taking the fence down, just insert a post midway between whats already there. dig the hole, insert post and attach to existing fence then secure post in the ground, leave the old posts where they are or cut them off when new posts are good and firm.[/QUOTE]
I didn't have any access until yesterday when I chopped a 6ft section out. The fence is upright but all the posts are loose or rotten (or both!) so need to get it sorted before the wind takes it.
I decided to do it the hard way so in future if I have any issues I can just take a panel out. Plus I can take them off dor treating etc.
That side is vacant for a couple of weeks so need to get it done sharpish really!.
I see where you're coming from with putting the posts in between and thats not a bad idea at all if I can get the old ones tamped down again. Some of them are beyond hope though!.
Was going to just set posts on our side but decided if I take the time now I've future proofed any later work that's needed.
Got a couple of hundred of these to bolt it all back together.
if you have access to the other side why bother taking the fence down, just insert a post midway between whats already there. dig the hole, insert post and attach to existing fence then secure post in the ground, leave the old posts where they are or cut them off when new posts are good and firm.[/QUOTE]
I didn't have any access until yesterday when I chopped a 6ft section out. The fence is upright but all the posts are loose or rotten (or both!) so need to get it sorted before the wind takes it.
I decided to do it the hard way so in future if I have any issues I can just take a panel out. Plus I can take them off dor treating etc.
That side is vacant for a couple of weeks so need to get it done sharpish really!.
I see where you're coming from with putting the posts in between and thats not a bad idea at all if I can get the old ones tamped down again. Some of them are beyond hope though!.
Was going to just set posts on our side but decided if I take the time now I've future proofed any later work that's needed.
Got a couple of hundred of these to bolt it all back together.
Dave 123
Legendary Member
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- Cambridgeshire alps
[QUOTE 5228070, member: 9609"]Silver Birch, at about two foot up circ= 45" so Dia just over 14"
I have cut it off where red line is so there is still about 3m standing in case gettind a chain on it and pulling might help tip it over.
Idea is, dig a trench about 2' deep all the way round cutting all roots - question is would that be enough ?
View attachment 406483 [/QUOTE]
Should be very shallow rooted.
What a shame, it's a cracking tree.
I have cut it off where red line is so there is still about 3m standing in case gettind a chain on it and pulling might help tip it over.
Idea is, dig a trench about 2' deep all the way round cutting all roots - question is would that be enough ?
View attachment 406483 [/QUOTE]
Should be very shallow rooted.
What a shame, it's a cracking tree.
Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
Like @Piemaster says, that’s a chain and land rover job. The quicker you can get that from plot, to pot, the better the taste. Hollandaise sauce and you’re a king for a day.
But yes, if you don’t know how old it is, leave it for two seasons and then eat. Asparagus are the evil temptresses of the veg garden.
PaulSB
Squire
- Location
- Chorley, Lancashire
[QUOTE 5228070, member: 9609"]Silver Birch, at about two foot up circ= 45" so Dia just over 14"
I have cut it off where red line is so there is still about 3m standing in case gettind a chain on it and pulling might help tip it over.
Idea is, dig a trench about 2' deep all the way round cutting all roots - question is would that be enough ?
View attachment 406483 [/QUOTE]
As a rule of thumb the root system spreads to the same diameter as the crown. Much of that root system will be fibrous and shallow rooted, you’ll probably find 3-4 strong heavy roots which anchor the tree in place.
Dig round in a circle about 12-18” out from the tree, basically get as close as you reasonably can. Once you’ve cleared some soil angle your digging in towards the tree at 45 degrees do you are cutting under the root ball at roughly a spade depth. You might need to go a bit deeper towards the centre.
Rock the stump as you go and cut through heavy roots with an old saw.
I have cut it off where red line is so there is still about 3m standing in case gettind a chain on it and pulling might help tip it over.
Idea is, dig a trench about 2' deep all the way round cutting all roots - question is would that be enough ?
View attachment 406483 [/QUOTE]
As a rule of thumb the root system spreads to the same diameter as the crown. Much of that root system will be fibrous and shallow rooted, you’ll probably find 3-4 strong heavy roots which anchor the tree in place.
Dig round in a circle about 12-18” out from the tree, basically get as close as you reasonably can. Once you’ve cleared some soil angle your digging in towards the tree at 45 degrees do you are cutting under the root ball at roughly a spade depth. You might need to go a bit deeper towards the centre.
Rock the stump as you go and cut through heavy roots with an old saw.