Have you filmed a crash, scrape or near miss? ITV wants your footage

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Peteaud

Veteran
Location
South Somerset
When my wife was a child she was not allowed to watch ITV because only people from council estates watched it.

My mother in law denies this was ever true, but still laughes!!!!
 

Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
When my wife was a child she was not allowed to watch ITV because only people from council estates watched it.

My mother in law denies this was ever true, but still laughes!!!!
I was barred from watching ITV when I was young probably until I was 7 or 8. I think my parents didn't approve of tv advertising. They deny it now but I have a distinct recollection of only being allowed to watch the BBC.
 
Does occur to me, that although I'm enjoying the thread, that they're not likely to go away having read this, thinking 'Oh, I must show cyclists in a better light'.

Of course not. They're not concerned with sensitivities or making the roads safer any more than a pornographer is interested in objectifying women. They want ratings, the OPs job depends upon it, they don't care if they encourage aggression and hostility. It's cheap telly, designed to pander to irrational prejudice, cheap, tawdry and irresponsible.
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
Why aren't accounts like the op in this thread just closed immediately, obviously no interest in the forum just here to 'sell' us something be it a product or in this case their documentary?

We let things like this get posted in case any CC members are interested. In this case we hoped you wouldn't be, but guessed that members would tell them what they could do with their offer - and you have! And I think the comments on this thread could be useful to any newbies here who might initially have thought 'O good, I can be on telly' if they see such a request anywhere else.

And I suppose it is just within the bounds of possibility that someone from ITV might read the responses....

We also allow 'single poster' users to post questionnaires etc (in the appropriate forum), and an occasional other 'advertising' type post if we think some CC members might be genuinely interested.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
We want this to be a thoughtful and insightful film that goes beyond the standard clip show format and doesn't take a them/us approach, widening divisions on the road - that's exactly why we're reaching out to people like you. Please tell us what you want to see, and get in touch.

We want a thoughtful and insightful explanation as to why drivers regard cyclists as second-class road users and an explanation of the now well-understood physiological phenomenon whereby drivers with perfectly good eyesight can completely fail to spot a small object approaching them. We would also like you to clear up in the minds of the viewers the difference between serious cyclists and muppets who happen to be riding a bicycle, just so that we don't all continue to be tarred with the same brush. Oh, and while you're at it, how about debunking the myth that since car drivers pay road tax they enjoy special rights on the roads?
 
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We want a thoughtful and insightful explanation as to why drivers regard cyclists as second-class road users and an explanation of the now well-understood physiological phenomenon whereby drivers with perfectly good eyesight can completely fail to spot a small object approaching them. We would also like you to clear up in the minds of the viewers the difference between serious cyclists and muppets who happen to be riding a bicycle, just so that we don't all continue to be tarred with the same brush. Oh, and while you're at it, how about debunking the myth that since car drivers pay road tax they enjoy special rights on the roads?
and point out that most of us are car drivers anyway - and pay tax just like everyone else...
 

Ganymede

Veteran
Location
Rural Kent
We want a thoughtful and insightful explanation as to why drivers regard cyclists as second-class road users and an explanation of the now well-understood physiological phenomenon whereby drivers with perfectly good eyesight can completely fail to spot a small object approaching them. We would also like you to clear up in the minds of the viewers the difference between serious cyclists and muppets who happen to be riding a bicycle, just so that we don't all continue to be tarred with the same brush. Oh, and while you're at it, how about debunking the myth that since car drivers pay road tax they enjoy special rights on the roads?
Great post - this is indeed what I'd like to see. Maybe ITV can come up with it...? Maybe it could be a genuine, thoughtful, fully-referenced documentary which could win a BAFTA. Go on, ITV. I don't see why they couldn't do it, but the OP would have to come on here and really explain it properly, not just tout for clips. Come on, @ITVCaughtOnCamera, give us the actual pitch.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
We want this to be a thoughtful and insightful film that goes beyond the standard clip show format and doesn't take a them/us approach, widening divisions on the road - that's exactly why we're reaching out to people like you. Please tell us what you want to see, and get in touch.

If that's what you eventually produce I'll be amazed; no TV company has yet done that with this type of clip show.

Should you get enough footage to go ahead with the programme, do come back and let us know of the broadcast date. I would be happy to be proved wrong in my cynicism.

GC
 

EltonFrog

Legendary Member
Just what British television needs! More cheap home video/phone cam/headcam programmes. Do TV producers go to college and get a certificate in Media Studies to come up with this shoot?

The trouble is viewers put up with it. They turn the telly on and say "what is this shoot?" there's nothing on so they watch it instead of turning it off. The TV execs see the figures and and say to each other " Look everyone's watching our shoot, it must be popular lets make more shoot". The TV companies make more shoot, cheaper than the last shoot and we turn the TV on and there's even worse shoot on, "what is this shoot, it's really shoot?" we say, "oh well there's nothing else on, we might as well watch it" and the TV producers rub there hands and say " look everyone is watching the cheap shoot we're making, let's do some more" and so it goes...

We've just moved house two weeks ago, the ariel don't work, we ain't going to bother to fix it.

That'll show them.

Edit: the swear filters have edited my word that starts with 'S' and ends in 'hit' with the word shoot.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
We want this to be a thoughtful and insightful film that goes beyond the standard clip show format and doesn't take a them/us approach, widening divisions on the road - that's exactly why we're reaching out to people like you. Please tell us what you want to see, and get in touch.

I meant to ask earlier, how much are you paying for each clip you use? (Bearing in mind that YBF pays £250 a pop.)

GC
 

LCpl Boiled Egg

Three word soundbite
Haha. Jog on!

Anyway, they only need to do 40 minutes of programme per hour. The rest of the time will be filled up with adverts and trailers for the junk that passes for entertainment on ITV. Oh, and don't forget the "Coming up..." and "Previously..." segments bookending the breaks because they believe the average viewer has the memory span of a goldfish.
 
We want this to be a thoughtful and insightful film that goes beyond the standard clip show format and doesn't take a them/us approach, widening divisions on the road - that's exactly why we're reaching out to people like you. Please tell us what you want to see, and get in touch.

If you're genuinely interested in setting out a fair programme that highlights what cycling in the UK involves, please take a look at the Helen Measures trial, where the defence barrister basically lied about a dead young girl to blame her for her own death when a driver on the wrong side of the road killed her. Or the Richard Jordan case, the subject of another complaint where multiple police failings mean we'll probably never know how he died, or why the police never looked into a phone call from the driver involved who admitted a collision then denied it.

You could look at "punishment passes" where two tons of metal are used as a weapon to punish perceived poor behaviour that is nothing of the kind, you could look at the spot checks on HGVs in London that found that three quarters of them were breaking the law, the Eilidh Cairns fatality where police failures meant the driver went on to kill again, the Mary Bowers case where a driver on a mobile forgot to put the handbrake on and crushed a young woman who will probably never wake from a PVS.

You could examine why cyclists get less funding than any other road user, the TFL budget isn't even spent, the money is sitting in a bak account instead of preventing deaths.

You could cover trafpol numbers in the capital being halved in ten years so dangerous driving has never been more likely to escape any punishment whatsoever.

You could highlight journalists like Parris, Martin, Clarkson et al who "joke" about crushing, strangling or ramming cyclists.

I bet a million pounds you do nothing of the kind, and I bet a million pounds that after your crappy little programme is aired we'll never hear from you again.
 

stephec

Squire
Location
Bolton
If you're genuinely interested in setting out a fair programme that highlights what cycling in the UK involves, please take a look at the Helen Measures trial, where the defence barrister basically lied about a dead young girl to blame her for her own death when a driver on the wrong side of the road killed her. Or the Richard Jordan case, the subject of another complaint where multiple police failings mean we'll probably never know how he died, or why the police never looked into a phone call from the driver involved who admitted a collision then denied it.

You could look at "punishment passes" where two tons of metal are used as a weapon to punish perceived poor behaviour that is nothing of the kind, you could look at the spot checks on HGVs in London that found that three quarters of them were breaking the law, the Eilidh Cairns fatality where police failures meant the driver went on to kill again, the Mary Bowers case where a driver on a mobile forgot to put the handbrake on and crushed a young woman who will probably never wake from a PVS.

You could examine why cyclists get less funding than any other road user, the TFL budget isn't even spent, the money is sitting in a bak account instead of preventing deaths.

You could cover trafpol numbers in the capital being halved in ten years so dangerous driving has never been more likely to escape any punishment whatsoever.

You could highlight journalists like Parris, Martin, Clarkson et al who "joke" about crushing, strangling or ramming cyclists.

I bet a million pounds you do nothing of the kind, and I bet a million pounds that after your crappy little programme is aired we'll never hear from you again.

As well as a like button we should have a post of the day option specially for posts like this.
 
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