OP
OP
Fab Foodie
hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
- Location
- Kirton, Devon.
Oh yeah ... I forgot the little yellow face :-)
Have you had your carcinogens today?
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Tin Pot
Guru
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Ah, I see. It seems "cured" is a scientific word for "making tastier."
Wafer
Veteran
- Location
- Somerset/Devon border
Maybe so, but they are introducing it as another 'red meat is bad for you' study and when so many of them in the past seem to have been wrong due to things like selection bias, inappropriate conclusions, double standards and so on.... and they quote that kind of stuff, I'm not inclined to believe the figures they come out with regarding the actual risk.
When I read that similar types of findings related to low meat/fat, high carb/veg diets have been ignored/hidden there's no way I can take it seriously.
jefmcg
Guru
Then avoid hot dogs (at least in the USA)It gets worse!
Clear Food found human DNA in 2% of the samples. 2/3rds of the samples with human DNA were vegetarian products
jefmcg
Guru
Davidc
Guru
- Location
- Somerset UK
Life's full of risks, at least eating foods the WHO doesn't like is an enjoyable risk.
I'll be out on the bike this evening and expect to drink 1 pint of beer or cider and to eat a meal including red meat. There is exactly zero chance of anyone at the WHO, doctor's or dentist's persuading me not to!
I'll be out on the bike this evening and expect to drink 1 pint of beer or cider and to eat a meal including red meat. There is exactly zero chance of anyone at the WHO, doctor's or dentist's persuading me not to!
jefmcg
Guru
Interesting you chose my post to make this point, only because I was posting this to emphasize that despite being in the same category as tobacco, the risk is far far lower.
Anyway, the best lesson to take from this is "moderation". I'm personally eating a little too much supermarket chorizo, so I'm going to cut down. I'm not going to stop eating preserved meats altogether.
6 out of 100 people in the UK will get bowel cancer. If those 100 people all stopped eating all red and preserved meat, that number would drop to 5 (or it maybe 7 dropping to 6). On the other hand, the other 94 people will all die of something too**. You pays your money and takes your choice.
(Actually, some of the 6 with bowel cancer will die of something else. The 6% figure is about developing cancer, not dying from it.)
swansonj
Guru
Technical note: the IARC monographs programme is ostensibly about classifying strength of evidence for causation, not quantifying the impact let alone making recommendations. The 1/2a/2b/3/4 classification scheme takes no account whatever of the size of any risk. Once upon a time, IARC purely published their assessment of causation and left it to other people to draw the public health lessons. In recent years, IARC have bowed to public (and probably funding) pressure to link their assessments to public health recommendations, sometimes controversial ones, as here, and some of us feel they have thereby diluted the high respect their classifications used to be held in for their objectivity.
As you were.
As you were.
