Helmet discussions: has anyone ever been persuaded otherwise?

[HJ]

I have never worn a helmet for road riding, I have worn one off road because I was made to. Having looked at the evidence, I really can see to point of wearing on for day to day on road cycling. Nor would I want to make kids wear one, as all it does it to put them off cycling. I want to see cycling to become a normal day to day activity the way it is in other parts of Europe. The needless promotion of cycle helmets is a hindrance to this aim not a help...

 

[HJ]

A tad melodramatic? Only because the culture and attitude is far different over in Europe then it is in the UK

The evidence from other parts of the English speaking world supports mickle point of view...

 

[bonj2]

I wear one when thrashing round the lanes at 'high speed'

when's that?

 

[jonesy]

The evidence from other parts of the English speaking world supports mickle point of view...

And that includes parts of England! Look at the places where cycling is used as an everyday mode of transport and you will see lower levels of helmet wearing: Oxford, Cambridge, York etc.

 

[jonesy]

There is a certain element of danger in any sport. I think if you was to ask the genral public as to why you would wear a helmet their reply would be ''to protect your head should you come off'' rather then cycling being inherently ''dangerous''

Cycling isn't just sport of course... I'd assume you wouldn't expect the safety requirements of motor sport to apply to normal driving?

 

[Abitrary]

And that includes parts of England! Look at the places where cycling is used as an everyday mode of transport and you will see lower levels of helmet wearing: Oxford, Cambridge, York etc.

Only because they've got big deformed tefal heads that won't fit in helmets in those places.

Traffic cones are the only head protection for that pointy heeded lot.

 

[bonj2]

Personally I'm in favour of making them compulsory.

The way I see it is, no-one would question why motorcyclers are forced to wear a helmet - so why shouldn't cyclists be?
The repeated argument that gets trotted out time and time again by the anti-helmet brigade is that "oh but we should be encouraging people to cycle".
Yes, but we shouldn't have to pander to them by not having laws that are solely common sense, because unfortunately not everyone has common sense.
It's a null argument anyway - people who won't cycle simply because they have to wear a helmet are people who will always find some other excuse not to cycle anyway - the blunt truth is they're simply people who don't want to cycle.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=a7aa15693ac2dea0da84af91511377b9

 

[Joe24]

Sorry, recreational activity for the benefit of fitness, transport and well-being.

Actually, cycling can be classed as different things depending on how the performer is doing it and at what level
It can either be a sport or outdoor recreation, or leisure. Or ofcourse it could be commuting.

 

[Joe24]

Yes....I know, the same as I know that 1+1=2

Sorry, i was just questioning your intelligence

Can i have a hug yet Lee?
Will hugs keep us safe when cycling?

 

[Abitrary]

Yes....I know, the same as I know that 1+1=2

only in number systems that are not binary

 

[Joe24]

No, you was questioning my interpretation of cycling - get it right or don't bother.

No you cannot have a hug and no they will not keep you safe.

I was just questioning you really.
What is your interpretation of cycling Lee?
Can cycling be classed as play?

Why wont hugs keep me safe?
Holding hands? My mum always said to hold hands when crossing roads.

 

[jonesy]

Sorry, recreational activity for the benefit of fitness, transport and well-being.

You are still defining cycling as a recreational activity. Not all cycling is recreation. Indeed, if you look at DfT National Travel Survey data, most isn't.

 

[Abitrary]

My apologies, I should have made it clear I was talking about whole numbers and not binary.

eh? binary is whole numbers... just less of them. You're thinking about fractions

 

[Joe24]

You are still defining cycling as a recreational activity. Not all cycling is recreation. Indeed, if you look at DfT National Travel Survey data, most isn't.

Exactly, meaning that i am right. Its also play, and a form of transport, but is done at sport and most common of people is outdoor recreation, and just plain recreation sometimes.
I suppose it depends if its done intrinsicly or extrinsicly aswell.

 

[Abitrary]

You are still defining cycling as a recreational activity. Not all cycling is recreation. Indeed, if you look at DfT National Travel Survey data, most isn't.

show off - you think that makes you sexy