Help identifying Raleigh frame

russ.will

Slimboy Fat
Location
The Fen Edge
Hi
I'm not pretending I've gotten myself a hidden gem here, but I'm just trying to peg down the vintage (or not!) of this frame. I bought it because I fancied some old steel to relive my yoof in the 80s and when I saw the proportions of this one, I was smitten, regardless of what it actually was.

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It's had a 'respray' so the 531 sticker means nothing. However, the lack of mudguard threads on the drop-outs seem to imply a reasonably sporty frame and the Suntour GPX groupset and Shimano 500 brakes seemed consistent with the bike being mid/late 80s. The front wheel and seat+stem replaced items stolen when locked up. Rear wheel is Mavic 501 6 speed hub on Alesa rim, also consistent I think. It is definitely a Raleigh, because the rear drop-out says so:

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My confusion started when trying to date the frame number stamped on the BB:

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The various resources either seem to imply it was made in the USA, 1929 (!) 1973 or is a 1994 SBDU frame according to this page. That would seem consistent with the age of the parts added to a frame bought on it's own.

Any information gratefully received!

Russ
 
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russ.will

russ.will

Slimboy Fat
Location
The Fen Edge
I should add that it rides beautifully, but I'm planning on doing it up with more modern parts, but trying to keep with the retro ethic. :smile:

Russ
 

otek59

Well-Known Member
I’m afraid I can’t help you to identify the frame, but that looks very nice. The paint and chrome forks really go well together just ride it and enjoy it
 
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russ.will

russ.will

Slimboy Fat
Location
The Fen Edge
I’m afraid I can’t help you to identify the frame, but that looks very nice. The paint and chrome forks really go well together just ride it and enjoy it
I certainly will - It's first outing is with the club's annual Sofa to 50k week 5 ride, which will ensure a gentle shakedown for both of us!

Ultimately, the plan is to postmodern it.

Russ
 

mikeymustard

Veteran
Number stamped on BB looks like a typical Raleigh Special Products Division
Yeah, 1994 is my guess ('94 catalogue here).
I would say most of the current components are a downgrade as 7 cog cassette was the order of the day, but it does mean that modernisation should be a doddle. If the freehub happens to be an 8 speed as well then even better!
The forks are replacements too, of course, so when you've got the frame stripped it may be worth checking its alignment just in case, but if it rides well as you say, then it's probably fine. :smile:
 

Gravity Aided

Legendary Member
Location
Land of Lincoln
Serial numbers also look American from this time period, Apply a magnet to the main tubes, if the lugs are plain lugs, and see if it attracts. If it doesn't, it may be a Technium, aluminum bonded to CrMo lugs.
 
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russ.will

russ.will

Slimboy Fat
Location
The Fen Edge
Quick question; the seat post is a modern FWE item which would make it 27.2mm - my eyes could only resolve 27mm on the ruler.

Can I presume that vintage seatposts from 26.8mm and up will fit?

Does this mean the seat tube outside diameter requires a 32mm band-on front derailleur?

Russ
 
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