I also never filter passed the first vehicle, it was something I was taught not to do when I learnt to ride a motorbike.GrasB said:In my personal opinion, yes it includes filtering. I would also ask where are you intending to go once you've got passed the first car?I Personally never see much point in filtering all the way to the front of a traffic queue.
clarion said:Filtering all the way up to a crossing is wrong and pointless.
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What terrible wording. If you MUST NOT do something, then how can it be qualified with "especially if"?BSRU said:Part of highway code 165 states:
You MUST NOT overtake * the nearest vehicle to a pedestrian crossing, especially when it has stopped to let pedestrians cross
Does filtering up the inside at a pedestrian crossing have the same restriction?
It is not really being vague it gives the legal references, it should also be noted that a bicycle is considered, in law, to be a vehicle (when it is being ridden).BSRU said:I also never filter passed the first vehicle, it was something I was taught not to do when I learnt to ride a motorbike.
I am just trying to clarify the legal position, the highway code seems very vague on filtering by bicycles.
I understand you reasoning but the law does not state the lights being green or red make any difference and passing a queue of waiting traffic seems not to be an exclusion.gaz said:Similar to the question you asked on my video. With that in mind, I had every right to filter as the car was waiting in traffic, it just so happened that the car had stopped on a pelican crossing but the light was green and peds were not crossing.
Just what I was thinking.benb said:What terrible wording. If you MUST NOT do something, then how can it be qualified with "especially if"?
It's like saying you MUST NOT murder someone, especially if you use a knife.
(edited to add analogy)
That's a really good point, I never even read it that waybenb said:What terrible wording. If you MUST NOT do something, then how can it be qualified with "especially if"?
It's like saying you MUST NOT murder someone, especially if you use a knife.
(edited to add analogy)
Apparently not, so long as you're on a pedal cycle.BSRU said:Part of highway code 165 states:
You MUST NOT overtake * the nearest vehicle to a pedestrian crossing, especially when it has stopped to let pedestrians cross
Does filtering up the inside at a pedestrian crossing have the same restriction?
So there's nothing to say a pedal cycle can't filter to the front. Note that a car can overtake a moving pedal cycle within the controlled area (the zig zag lines) but can't overtake a stationary pedal cycle that's stopped, eg at a red light or for a ped using a zebra crossing.The Zebra said:Prohibition against vehicles overtaking at crossings
24. - (1) Whilst any motor vehicle (in this regulation called "the approaching vehicle") or any part of it is within the limits of a controlled area and is proceeding towards the crossing, the driver of the vehicle shall not cause it or any part of it -
(a) to pass ahead of the foremost part of any other motor vehicle proceeding in the same direction; or
(to pass ahead of the foremost part of a vehicle which is stationary for the purpose of complying with regulation 23, 25 or 26.
(2) In paragraph (1) -
(a) the reference to a motor vehicle in sub-paragraph (a) is, in a case where more than one motor vehicle is proceeding in the same direction as the approaching vehicle in a controlled area, a reference to the motor vehicle nearest to the crossing; and
(the reference to a stationary vehicle is, in a case where more than one vehicle is stationary in a controlled area for the purpose of complying with regulation 23, 25 or 26, a reference to the stationary vehicle nearest the crossing.
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