House boundaries

[Electric_Andy]

Hi all. Some advice please.

My neighbour wants to install a new driveway. We have a piece of lawn outside which goes across both boundaries but obviously there's no way of knowing how to divide it. The neighbour has marked out where she thinks the boundary is, but it was about 2 feet into my land. The deeds show that the boundary line comes out at 90 degrees to the plain of the houses. I've done this by eye and am fairly happy that's fair.

However, she is still trying to Nick about 2 feet into my land, so I've said she needs to pay for someone to measure it out properly. Instead of doing that, she's now got some "other" deeds from the estate agent (I think) and she now says the boundary follows the lines of the current driveways, which curve in her favour.

What do I do now? I'm not going to squabble over 2 inches, but 2 feet is significant bearing in mind they're going to park their caravan there.

Who has authority over this, could I ask the land registry?

Thanks

 

[gbb]

What do your deeds show?
Mine for instaance show clearly where my boundary line is located, half way into a rear public access path.
Tbf, that's easy to interpret because that narrow path is fenced either side and the boundary line is exactly central.

 

[Hornchurch]

Hi all. Some advice please.

My neighbour wants to install a new driveway. We have a piece of lawn outside which goes across both boundaries but obviously there's no way of knowing how to divide it. The neighbour has marked out where she thinks the boundary is, but it was about 2 feet into my land. The deeds show that the boundary line comes out at 90 degrees to the plain of the houses. I've done this by eye and am fairly happy that's fair.

However, she is still trying to Nick about 2 feet into my land, so I've said she needs to pay for someone to measure it out properly. Instead of doing that, she's now got some "other" deeds from the estate agent (I think) and she now says the boundary follows the lines of the current driveways, which curve in her favour.

What do I do now? I'm not going to squabble over 2 inches, but 2 feet is significant bearing in mind they're going to park their caravan there.

Who has authority over this, could I ask the land registry?

Thanks

I'd contact the local council & "badger" to speak to the Town Housing planning dept - (etc)

Explain that your neighbour is really "taking the pi$$" & about to blot-out natural light in your bedroom/living-room, etc.

And "in finale", tell them that she's "intentionally stealing some of my land, encroaching my boundary"

In other words, she's "Double Taking Da Pi$$" , big-time.

Also, threaten her with 'Legal Action' if she persists - (Even "if" you can't afford, it, as the "bluff" MIGHT just work ?)

I've had a pi$$-taking 'c-nt; of a neighbour, wipe tens of thousands off of MY property....

Pi$$-taker destroyed her rear-lawn & built a 'Granny-Annexe' for her "Not got two pots to pi$$-in" elderly parents.

Sell THEIR detached home, "move in with daughter/paramedic", £250k in the bank. "Live The Life of Riley"

(At MY expense, I should add - Now being overlooked by 100% into my bedroom, rendering MY property 'unsaleable'

Would YOU (or anyone reading this), want to "buy a home" where 2 x folks can peer directly into your bedroom ?


It now 100% "overlooks" my bedroom, therefore I have to keep my curtains shut - (Sex, Dressing, Privacy, etc)

Bang out of order, yet the "wayne kerrs" at our local-council were OBV'S "in-league" with her, overriding MY objections.

This country is pathetic like that - You got the right ethnic-background, you can "move mountains" (in complaint)

Whereas, "if" you've just a divorced middle-aged "indigenous" male, forget it - (wrong time, wrong ethnicity)

Losing TENS OF THOUSANDS off of a property that I owned, 10-yrs before "selfish" arrived, it's galling & hurtful

All because some self-appointed 'idiot' in a suit (who isn't there & never even visited), "over-ruled" my objections !

Good luck with yours, even tho' it's "trivia", by comparison

.

 

[Sallar55]

Find a surveyor or architect to check your boundary line. Mother had a letter from a builder, wanted to rip up the hedge and was going to do it in a week. Took the deeds/building plans to the architect and they checked everything. Result was mother told to them that she would take them for every penny that they had. Hedge was inside our boundary ( Scottish legal system and land registry)

 

[figbat]

Ultimately, if it comes to it, the only person who can decide is a judge who will use all evidence from both sides.

You can get a copy of your neighbour’s deeds from Land Registry if you want.

 

[Kingfisher101]

I'd contact the local council & "badger" to speak to the Town Housing planning dept - (etc)

Explain that your neighbour is really "taking the pi$$" & about to blot-out natural light in your bedroom/living-room, etc.

And "in finale", tell them that she's "intentionally stealing some of my land, encroaching my boundary"

In other words, she's "Double Taking Da Pi$$" , big-time.

Also, threaten her with 'Legal Action' if she persists - (Even "if" you can't afford, it, as the "bluff" MIGHT just work ?)

I've had a pi$$-taking 'c-nt; of a neighbour, wipe tens of thousands off of MY property....

Pi$$-taker destroyed her rear-lawn & built a 'Granny-Annexe' for her "Not got two pots to pi$$-in" elderly parents.

Sell THEIR detached home, "move in with daughter/paramedic", £250k in the bank. "Live The Life of Riley"

(At MY expense, I should add - Now being overlooked by 100% into my bedroom, rendering MY property 'unsaleable'

Would YOU (or anyone reading this), want to "buy a home" where 2 x folks can peer directly into your bedroom ?


It now 100% "overlooks" my bedroom, therefore I have to keep my curtains shut - (Sex, Dressing, Privacy, etc)

Bang out of order, yet the "wayne kerrs" at our local-council were OBV'S "in-league" with her, overriding MY objections.

This country is pathetic like that - You got the right ethnic-background, you can "move mountains" (in complaint)

Whereas, "if" you've just a divorced middle-aged "indigenous" male, forget it - (wrong time, wrong ethnicity)

Losing TENS OF THOUSANDS off of a property that I owned, 10-yrs before "selfish" arrived, it's galling & hurtful

All because some self-appointed 'idiot' in a suit (who isn't there & never even visited), "over-ruled" my objections !

Good luck with yours, even tho' it's "trivia", by comparison

.

You could put nets up or a film where you can see out but they cant see in? You dont have to have the curtains drawn fully all the time.

 

[flake99please]

I would invest in obtaining a copy of the deeds from your neighbours property. Show them the boundary line on this and your own deeds. Explain that you will only accept building works which do not encroach on your property and boundary.

Offer to cover the cost of a surveyor if the surveyor agrees with your neighbours assumed boundary line. If the surveyor agrees with your assumption of boundary, then your neighbour pays their fees.

If they fail to agree with the above option, advise them that you will use whatever legal measures are available to you prevent and/or remedy any work already undertaken beyond the boundary line.

Good luck.

 

[neil_merseyside]

Stand up to them (you are likely right), or move, instigating sale before work starts you can claim no neighbour problems on the legal forms as at that point it is accurate, festering resentment afterwards I don't think actually has a tick box, but Google could find this thread. You need to back up your hunch? with about £0.25M if it gets nasty so do something now.

 

[Electric_Andy]

What do your deeds show?
Mine for instaance show clearly where my boundary line is located, half way into a rear public access path.
Tbf, that's easy to interpret because that narrow path is fenced either side and the boundary line is exactly central.

The deeds clearly show that the boundary line extends from the front of our adjoined houses at 90 degrees. I'll try and put a picture up later. I'm in no doubt about the boundary, but she'd like to keep disagreeing until she can encroach 2 feet into my boundary.

 

[Alex321]

Unless the "deeds" she has are from the Land Registry, they mean nothing.

You could always try putting up a fence or wall ON the boundary. It will then be up to her to prove you have encroached (which she won't be able to do if your deeds are genuine).

 

[cougie uk]

I'd contact the local council & "badger" to speak to the Town Housing planning dept - (etc)

Explain that your neighbour is really "taking the pi$$" & about to blot-out natural light in your bedroom/living-room, etc.

And "in finale", tell them that she's "intentionally stealing some of my land, encroaching my boundary"

In other words, she's "Double Taking Da Pi$$" , big-time.

Also, threaten her with 'Legal Action' if she persists - (Even "if" you can't afford, it, as the "bluff" MIGHT just work ?)

I've had a pi$$-taking 'c-nt; of a neighbour, wipe tens of thousands off of MY property....

Pi$$-taker destroyed her rear-lawn & built a 'Granny-Annexe' for her "Not got two pots to pi$$-in" elderly parents.

Sell THEIR detached home, "move in with daughter/paramedic", £250k in the bank. "Live The Life of Riley"

(At MY expense, I should add - Now being overlooked by 100% into my bedroom, rendering MY property 'unsaleable'

Would YOU (or anyone reading this), want to "buy a home" where 2 x folks can peer directly into your bedroom ?


It now 100% "overlooks" my bedroom, therefore I have to keep my curtains shut - (Sex, Dressing, Privacy, etc)

Bang out of order, yet the "wayne kerrs" at our local-council were OBV'S "in-league" with her, overriding MY objections.

This country is pathetic like that - You got the right ethnic-background, you can "move mountains" (in complaint)

Whereas, "if" you've just a divorced middle-aged "indigenous" male, forget it - (wrong time, wrong ethnicity)

Losing TENS OF THOUSANDS off of a property that I owned, 10-yrs before "selfish" arrived, it's galling & hurtful

All because some self-appointed 'idiot' in a suit (who isn't there & never even visited), "over-ruled" my objections !

Good luck with yours, even tho' it's "trivia", by comparison

.

Pretty sure there's millions of homes that are overlooked. Net curtains and you're good to go.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Are property boundaries in England’s Land Registry not digitised yet? Scotland’s are. For a small fee I can obtain an accurate plan of any property and land boundary and it will show the exact legal extent.

Can you post a scan of the deed showing A) the plan of the property and B) the textual description of the boundary?

 

[Electric_Andy]

I'm not sure what's digitised and what's accessable to be honest. Here is a pic of the deeds (I'm number 7, she is to the left of me number 5 which isn't numbered). The orange line is where the neighbour thinks her drive can go, but as you can see the boundary lines go out 90 degrees from the plane of the house. The driveways on on her side actually goes about 3 feet into her other adjoining neighbours driveway....but that has obviously been overlooked and not challenged for years

 

[T4tomo]

I would invest in obtaining a copy of the deeds from your neighbours property. Show them the boundary line on this and your own deeds. Explain that you will only accept building works which do not encroach on your property and boundary.

Offer to cover the cost of a surveyor if the surveyor agrees with your neighbours assumed boundary line. If the surveyor agrees with your assumption of boundary, then your neighbour pays their fees.

If they fail to agree with the above option, advise them that you will use whatever legal measures are available to you prevent and/or remedy any work already undertaken beyond the boundary line.

Good luck.

good advice, also check their deeds to see if there is any restrictive covenant to prevent them parking a caravan on the drive, that would be a bonus!!

 

[T4tomo]

I'm not sure what's digitised and what's accessable to be honest. Here is a pic of the deeds (I'm number 7, she is to the left of me number 5 which isn't numbered). The orange line is where the neighbour thinks her drive can go, but as you can see the boundary lines go out 90 degrees from the plane of the house. The driveways on on her side actually goes about 3 feet into her other adjoining neighbours driveway....but that has obviously been overlooked and not challenged for years

That's pretty clear cut, I'd be getting a steel post concreted in here sharpish!