..ok this is probably the wrong forum(?) but I just wondered how I compare to some of you chaps regarding speed/distance etc while loaded. Today i rode 66km with four fully loaded panniers and a barbag, including a tent and sleep bag & cookset etc. It took me 5 hours and i had a head wind for most of the route & it was pretty warm. I found I was shattered after about 35km (which included some hillier sections than I am used to) and had to rest for 30 minutes. I was getting to the point where I felt sick as I pulled up into the drive at home. I drank four full water bottles (re filled at a shop) & a bottle of lucasade energy which just seemed to tire me even further!. I know touring isn't a race, but i just would like to know how I am doing on my quest to get fitter....I know it's slow but is it embarrasingly slow, or is it reasonable? ..I was so knackered that i have re packed everything and got serious about minimising everything...I'm going to try to ride with just the rear bags and see what difference it makes.