How do we improve the quality of debate on this site?

Page may contain affiliate links. Please see terms for details.

Gerry Attrick

Lincolnshire Mountain Rescue Consultant
Spot on Norm. Why does CC have to be the preserve of the conformists? I think the negative response to GC does not read well. He may have views and opinions which are outside the scope or experience of the majority, but I find the negative response of the some of the regulars distasteful and un-necessary.
 

Beardie

Well-Known Member
Try being a member of something for more than five days before trying to change it.
 

twentysix by twentyfive

Clinging on tightly
Location
Over the Hill
C+!! :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Pretty sad reaction to GC, isn't it? I've no idea what he's done to upset so many but the responses on this thread suggest, to me, that he's not far off the mark with his OP.


Well as an "experienced" attendee in the cafe I read those posts as a leg pull/piss take but I concede that they might very well be taken seriously by some.

GC - the cafe is not a serious debating board. On here that happens in P&L (some would say). Have a look in there if you will.
 

surfdude

Veteran
Location
cornwall
not sure .why dont you see if their is anything in your blog to answer your own question , then you can cut and paste it here for us all to read .
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
1. There's a level of erudition and humour in P+L that makes the Oxford Union look like the Jeremy Kyle Show
2. A good proportion of the people in P+L know each other, and that's led to a kind of shorthand that is sometimes confusing. As in

DZ 'F*** off Rich'
RP 'F*** off Dell'

which really means

DZ 'I hold you in the deepest affection, although I cannot understand how your lovely, patient, sweet-natured wife puts up with you'
RP 'I hold you in equally deep affection, but your sixteen spoke wheels are a pointless affectation and your pseudo philosophical maunderings are risible'
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Spot on Norm. Why does CC have to be the preserve of the conformists? I think the negative response to GC does not read well. He may have views and opinions which are outside the scope or experience of the majority, but I find the negative response of the some of the regulars distasteful and un-necessary.

Well, he's come along, cut and pasted his blog entries in to start topics rather than bringing anything original, and all his opening posts have been just a little bit confrontational, in a kind of "This is what I think, and you all disagree but I don't care" way - despite the fact that actually, we don't - there are plenty of Pashley fans, and people to whom the weight of a bike means nothing, but according to him he's fighting a lone battle against our sort, whatever that is.
 

Gerry Attrick

Lincolnshire Mountain Rescue Consultant
Well, he's come along, cut and pasted his blog entries in to start topics rather than bringing anything original, and all his opening posts have been just a little bit confrontational, in a kind of "This is what I think, and you all disagree but I don't care" way - despite the fact that actually, we don't - there are plenty of Pashley fans, and people to whom the weight of a bike means nothing, but according to him he's fighting a lone battle against our sort, whatever that is.
[/quote

So is that sufficient reason to try to silence him?
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
I confess I thought the weight stuff was a bit odd. Some of us care deeply about the weight of our bikes, and some of us are concerned about the looks, or the comfort or the price.
 

Norm

Guest
Well, he's come along, cut and pasted his blog entries in to start topics rather than bringing anything original, and all his opening posts have been just a little bit confrontational, in a kind of "This is what I think, and you all disagree but I don't care" way - despite the fact that actually, we don't - there are plenty of Pashley fans, and people to whom the weight of a bike means nothing, but according to him he's fighting a lone battle against our sort, whatever that is.
But it's original if it's in his blog, isn't it?

Besides, there's plenty of CCers who post text lifted from the Mail, Guardian or BBC who aren't subjected to the sort of ire which GC has faced.

As for the weight thing and the thoughts of the CC community, as I have already said, that was a throw-away line and irrelevant to the point he was making. It's a shame that almost everyone ignored the crux of his hypothesis and went off on one about it, IMO.

I see it as a bit of flock mentality, one person picks up an irrelvancy and everyone else follows along, bleating the same noises.

Much the same has happened on this thread, though. When asked how we debate could be improved, the majority opinion is that can be achieved by telling the OP to **** off. Hardly an insightful way to improve the CC landscape.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Well, he's come along, cut and pasted his blog entries in to start topics rather than bringing anything original, and all his opening posts have been just a little bit confrontational, in a kind of "This is what I think, and you all disagree but I don't care" way - despite the fact that actually, we don't - there are plenty of Pashley fans, and people to whom the weight of a bike means nothing, but according to him he's fighting a lone battle against our sort, whatever that is.

So is that sufficient reason to try to silence him?

Well, if someone you hardly knew walked into a party you were at, and starting quoting newspaper articles at you aggressively, apparently purely to put you down, would you think "oh super, what a nice chap", or would you tend to move away and try to ignore him. And then if he followed you, and told you you were at fault for not liking being harangued....

It would just be nice if he entered into any kind of dialogue, rather than doing nothing but bang his own drum, and rudely at that.
 
Top Bottom