How does ageing affects your purchasing prospects?

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winjim

Smash the cistern
Very true, my discussion was more the importance of weight compared to rigidity.
It's pretty easy these days to make a bike that comes in under the UCI weight limit so pretty much anybody can afford one and it's no longer a selling point.
 

Stompier

Senior Member
Not my experience, especially riding with a group, and as I said, as one ages and muscle strength inevitably drops I believe it is worth paying more for the lighter bike.

Muscle strength would have to weaken to dangerously low levels before it became a problem for cycling.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
I think there's more to it than that. Once up to speed, on the flat, the heavier bike should require no more effort to maintain speed than any other, lighter or otherwise. Uphill, you will be carrying 3.5kg more, which might have a marginal impact on your climbing speed for the same effort. You'll probably get it back on the downhills though.
Not my experience, especially riding with a group, and as I said, as one ages and muscle strength inevitably drops I believe it is worth paying more for the lighter bike.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Not my experience, especially riding with a group, and as I said, as one ages and muscle strength inevitably drops I believe it is worth paying more for the lighter bike.

It doesn’t drop all that much if you remain active. A study from Kings College London showed long distance cyclists who rode regularly had the same muscle composition and immune function as 20 year olds. Some were in their 80’s!

What is considered an affect of aging is simply the accumulation of years of being sedentary. Use it, or lose it.
 

SkipdiverJohn

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Basically the heavier bike requires more effort to ride at the same speed, and up hills

Are you comparing bikes on like-for-like tyres though?
I have a Reynolds framed rigid steel MTB on knobbly tyres which is slower and harder work to ride on the same fairly flat route than a cheapo gas-pipe 3-speed that is several pounds heavier. If it was all about weight, the MTB would be faster, being lighter - but it isn't.
If I compare my heaviest and lightest bikes that are fitted with road oriented tyres, the differences aren't very big.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
Muscle strength would have to weaken to dangerously low levels before it became a problem for cycling.
Well it has become a problem for me - just trying to answer the OP's question 'How does ageing affects your purchasing prospects?'
I now have to ride a eroad bike, and lower weight was a serious factor in my decision to buy an Orbea Gain.
 

Stompier

Senior Member
Well it has become a problem for me - just trying to answer the OP's question 'How does ageing affects your purchasing prospects?'
I now have to ride a eroad bike, and lower weight was a serious factor in my decision to buy an Orbea Gain.

ok, but it's not necessarily a generic issue, is all I'm saying. Clearly if you have some kind of muscle-related or functional problem then that's different.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
It doesn’t drop all that much if you remain active. A study from Kings College London showed long distance cyclists who rode regularly had the same muscle composition and immune function as 20 year olds. Some were in their 80’s!

What is considered an affect of aging is simply the accumulation of years of being sedentary. Use it, or lose it.
There are other reasons to lose muscle power, I'm 72 have been riding since I was 12. I would still consider myself more active than the average 70 year old. It doesn't always work.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
It doesn’t drop all that much if you remain active. A study from Kings College London showed long distance cyclists who rode regularly had the same muscle composition and immune function as 20 year olds. Some were in their 80’s!

What is considered an affect of aging is simply the accumulation of years of being sedentary. Use it, or lose it.
Does the study compare the cyclist's current muscle composition and immune function with their muscle composition and immune function 20 years ago?
 

Stompier

Senior Member
Does the study compare the cyclist's current muscle composition and immune function with their muscle composition and immune function 20 years ago?

I think the point being made is that the reduction is minimal regardless. Presumably you have been diagnosed with some kind of muscular issue, which is probably a different scenario altogether.
 

lane

Veteran
I think there's more to it than that. Once up to speed, on the flat, the heavier bike should require no more effort to maintain speed than any other, lighter or otherwise. Uphill, you will be carrying 3.5kg more, which might have a marginal impact on your climbing speed for the same effort. You'll probably get it back on the downhills though.

You don't get it back on the down hills due to wind resistance otherwise hilly rides would not take longer / be slower.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
I think the point being made is that the reduction is minimal regardless. Presumably you have been diagnosed with some kind of muscular issue, which is probably a different scenario altogether.
Is this the study? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43308729The BBC article refers to the immune system, no mention of muscle strength. Do you have a link to the original study? There is some online comment that there was some element of self selection in the group of riders examined. Not all cyclists are fortunate enough to be able to continue their riding as they would wish as they age.
 

Stompier

Senior Member
Is this the study? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43308729The BBC article refers to the immune system, no mention of muscle strength. Do you have a link to the original study? There is some online comment that there was some element of self selection in the group of riders examined. Not all cyclists are fortunate enough to be able to continue their riding as they would wish as they age.

I wasn't referring to any study - I think that was Mr Yukon.
 

Stompier

Senior Member
You don't get it back on the down hills due to wind resistance otherwise hilly rides would not take longer / be slower.

You will descend quicker with more weight (up to a point), which is what I was getting at.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
I think this is the study, and it does talk extensively
I wasn't referring to any study - I think that was Mr Yukon.
Apologies - you're correct. I think I've found the study referred to and I think that when I was in my 60's I would have met the inclusion criteria: " The primary inclusion criteria were that males could cycle 100 km in under 6.5 hr and females 60 km in under 5.5 hr and that this had been done twice in the previous 3 weeks." It does look at muscle function.
 
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