How J-Lo can you go?

[winjim]

You are looking at this story the wrong way round. Rather then having a pop at 2 singers getting paid for work. You should rather be looking at the story of rich oligarchs who's money was probably swindled from the Russian people paying such a huge amount of money just to satisfy a family members lasciviousness. .

That's true, but there is still a moral choice over which work to accept, especially if you're rich enough that you could afford to turn it down. It could be argued that those taking money from this oligarch are complicit in any swindling that has gone on.

I should add that I know nothing of this gentleman's business affairs. He may well be as honest as the day is long.

 

[Markymark]

I own a business. As long as what I do is legal and ethical I will do it. I won't case moral judgements on my customers and decide who I shall work for or not.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

I find it hard to imagine either of them did it because they actually needed the extra money, so what drives them? Could it be that no matter how much you have it's never enough?......

Lewis Hamilton is worth £70 odd million, why still drive a racing car that could kill or hurt him significantly.

Why do ageing multimillionaire footballers go for one last huge payday in US or Saudi or wherever pro soccer leagues are stumping up the readies right now?


Wouldn't the professional bleeding heart Bono be far more credible giving his vast fortune away and living in a council flat in a grotty bit of Dublin rather than sitting in a splendid castle overlooking the town owning more money than he could burn in a day even if he started really early?

How much difference to Animal Welfare would Paul McCartney's near billion pound fortune make if he downsized to a semi detached in Crosby, applied for a bus pass and handed his money over to PETA?

Also market rates, why should or would people undersell themselves from what society deems them worth? Rightly or wrongly Sting is worth a fortune because people will pay him a fortune to ply his trade, if he's happy in his work why should he be forced not to do it on some arbitrary sliding scale of frank thinks he's got enough dosh?

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

You are looking at this story the wrong way round. Rather then having a pop at 2 singers getting paid for work. You should rather be looking at the story of rich oligarchs who's money was probably swindled from the Russian people paying such a huge amount of money just to satisfy a family members lasciviousness. .

Correct - bunch of corrupt so and sos.

 

[tyred]

One question I always like to ask people who moan about footballers/singers/actors or whatever being paid too much -

If your boss came and tapped you on the shoulder and said "would you like a payrise to £ (whatever Sting earns in a year.00)?" how many people would actually say no?

The reason I don't earn as much as Sting isn't purely out of some sort of social conscious thing but more to do with the fact that I don't have his musical talents and nobody would pay to hear me sing (though perhaps they might pay for me to shut up).

 

[ColinJ]

One question I always like to ask people who moan about footballers/singers/actors or whatever being paid too much -

If your boss came and tapped you on the shoulder and said "would you like a payrise to £ (whatever Sting earns in a year.00)?" how many people would actually say no?

The reason I don't earn as much as Sting isn't purely out of some sort of social conscious thing but more to do with the fact that I don't have his musical talents and nobody would pay to hear me sing (though perhaps they might pay for me to shut up).

That's the wrong question though, isn't it!

It should be "How would you like to earn a lot of money working for yourself instead of me? That would be at least 10 or 20 times what you actually need to have a VERY nice lifestyle. Now, having already got that, in order to get your sticky mitts on even MORE would you like to kiss up to whichever rich b*stard snaps his fingers and expects you to come running?"

 

[PhilDawson8270]

One question I always like to ask people who moan about footballers/singers/actors or whatever being paid too much

So long as they are paying their tax and NI in the UK legally, and fairly. It only benefits us for them to be paid that much.

Carlos Tevez's payslip was leaked a couple of years back. Look at the deductions! This is just 1 player too
£330 766 Tax
£7786 NI

Per MONTH. These people also will cost the country less as they're most certainly not using public healthcare or transport. If all the wages in premier league were capped at "reasonable" levels. Where does this shortfall get picked up from?

Ignoring all the above, these superstars are paid only a fraction of the revenue they generate, otherwise they wouldn't get paid that much! If you were able to generate the revenue for a business that these elite athletes and performers do, your salary would probably end up very similar too.

 

[FrankCrank]

You are looking at this story the wrong way round. Rather then having a pop at 2 singers getting paid for work. You should rather be looking at the story of rich oligarchs who's money was probably swindled from the Russian people paying such a huge amount of money just to satisfy a family members lasciviousness. .

....that's exactly the point I was trying to make, the pair of them should have turned it down on moral grounds, unless of course this particular oligarch is a fine, upstanding pillar of the community.

As to soccer players, pay them what they currently get in a week as an annual salary, and you'll see vast improvements in the game. If still not enough, they can do a spot of window cleaning on the side......

 

[PhilDawson8270]

As to soccer players, pay them what they currently get in a week as an annual salary, and you'll see vast improvements in the game. If still not enough, they can do a spot of window cleaning on the side......

Why?

 

[FrankCrank]

....cos they get payed too much, makes them into prima donnas, diving at the slightest touch, bring back George Best.

Jumpers for goalposts......

 

[PhilDawson8270]

....cos they get payed too much, makes them into prima donnas, diving at the slightest touch, bring back George Best.

Jumpers for goalposts......

Why do you believe they get paid too much? There are massive sums of money involved in advertising, TV rights, prize money. They are only receiving a small portion of this. They are being paid less than they generate. Do you think if the old days of Georgey Best generated this kind of revenue, that the salaries would have still been relatively low?

 

[Markymark]

....that's exactly the point I was trying to make, the pair of them should have turned it down on moral grounds, unless of course this particular oligarch is a fine, upstanding pillar of the community.

As to soccer players, pay them what they currently get in a week as an annual salary, and you'll see vast improvements in the game. If still not enough, they can do a spot of window cleaning on the side......

Do you run personal background checks on your employers? Crb checks etc to check their caliber?

 

[ianrauk]

George Best would have been one of the first in the queue to take big money if he was playing football in today's era. In fact he would probably be one of the highest paid.

 

[BrumJim]

Why do you believe they get paid too much? There are massive sums of money involved in advertising, TV rights, prize money. They are only receiving a small portion of this. They are being paid less than they generate. Do you think if the old days of Georgey Best generated this kind of revenue, that the salaries would have still been relatively low?

Agreed. Football stars still have employers who have the option of not paying them and watching them go somewhere else. It is the manager, but ultimately the club owner, who agrees to these, and they are certainly aware of the costs and benefits of signing a player. So it is pure market forces that drive these ridiculous salaries.

The ones I object to are Chief Executives who decide their own salary, with very little regard to the differences that they make. And then pay themselves a second salary through the back door, and then don't get sacked for doing it, like anyone else would.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35890448)

 

[winjim]

So long as they are paying their tax and NI in the UK legally, and fairly. It only benefits us for them to be paid that much.

Carlos Tevez's payslip was leaked a couple of years back. Look at the deductions! This is just 1 player too
£330 766 Tax
£7786 NI

Per MONTH. These people also will cost the country less as they're most certainly not using public healthcare or transport. If all the wages in premier league were capped at "reasonable" levels. Where does this shortfall get picked up from?

Ignoring all the above, these superstars are paid only a fraction of the revenue they generate, otherwise they wouldn't get paid that much! If you were able to generate the revenue for a business that these elite athletes and performers do, your salary would probably end up very similar too.

I bet he was bummed about that 24 quid fine.