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How much oil on a new cassette & chain...?

Discussion in 'Bicycle Mechanics and Repairs' started by Maz, 8 Jan 2008.

  1. Maz

    Maz Guru

    In anticipation of the cassette/chain replacement I will be doing...

    Any tips on how much oil I should put on a brand new cassette and chain?

    I am all too familiar with over-oiling, as it gunged up my last chain as well as gathering grit to help wear away the chain and cassette.

    Thanks
     
  2. Stick on a Giant

    Stick on a Giant New Member

    None! The key to an oiled chain is getting it on the inside of the bits - which you can't really do effectively from the outside, unless you take the chain all to bits, which is why they do it when they put it together. There's been other posts on this, and Sheldon Brown always has something on this.
     
  3. Maz

    Maz Guru

    Interesting. I see what you mean about the oiling done at manufacture. Don't you need at least some oil at the chain/cassette interface?
    Do you never oil your chain??
     
  4. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    I use a drip of Finish Line Pro Road on each ball of the chain, give it 2mins to penetrate and wipe off the excess. Job done.

    Don't degrease, just re-oil, and wipe off the excess regularly.

    Also buy a chain measuring tool thingy, and you will never suffer damage from a stretched chain again.
     
  5. jashburnham

    jashburnham New Member

    The lube used during the manufacturing of the chain is far more effective than anything you'll be able to buy and apply. Just clean your chain with a rag once a week or whenever and lube it (I use Finish Line Pro road). Don't use degreaser on your chain and make sure you clean off the excess lube. KMC have some good tips here:
    http://www.kmcchain.com.tw/index.php?ln=en&fn=service#3
     
  6. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    Very interesting comment on the KMC advice, "Never use a chain cleaning machine", which I presume to be a chain bath.

    That ties in with the advice I have often given that removing a chain and soaking it in degreaser is a waste of time and does more harm than good.
     
  7. Maz

    Maz Guru

    Gawd. That means I went way overboard with oiling my old chain. Lesson learnt.
    Thanks for the advice and v.useful link.
     
  8. squeaker

    squeaker New Member

    Location:
    Steyning
    Wait until it gets noisy / starts squeaking before you oil it: i.e. just too late :biggrin:
    But, if you don't go far with it squeaking, you probably won't do too much damage.
     
  9. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html
    You should always do this once a week.
     
  10. Blue

    Blue Legendary Member

    Location:
    Ireland
  11. Maz

    Maz Guru

  12. jashburnham

    jashburnham New Member

    I was chatting to a friend last night about bike cleaning (couple of boring sods that we are) we used about half a can of degreaser on his bike the other day, now his chain squeaks and no amount of lube will stop it - proves KMC's advice I reckon, he's basically messed up his chain. We're due for a 60miler on sun, I hope the squeak doesn't drive me nuts!
     
  13. Unkraut

    Unkraut Master of the Inane Comment

    Location:
    Germany
    If only I had realised this before taking the chain apart ....

    Current topic for me, having just had the chain and cassette replaced. I use oil much more sparingly now than when I first started to commute. I find WD40 quite good in winter when the ground and air is damp, as this does not accumulate and I cannot imagine much dust and muck sticks to the chain as would be the case with oil. The newer bike also has a cheap and nasty plastic chainguard, which prevents a lot of muck reaching the chain.
     
  14. Chris James

    Chris James Über Member

    Location:
    Huddersfield
    You've gone and done it now. Mickle'll be along any minute to inform you that it isn't a lubricant (yes, I know it says on the can that it lubricates).

    I use TF2 which seems okay, although someone will also tell me that it is rubbish and I should be using something else.
     
  15. derosa

    derosa New Member

    Location:
    Off the back

    Two of the best degreasers ever made :wacko: