How violent is prison?

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ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
prison violence - it's also very violent on our streets today
No it isn't. It's actually safer than it has ever been, despite what the red-tops try to tell us. If you avoid teenage gangs and drunken yobs at chucking-out time, your chances of being involved in any violent incident are vanishingly small.
 
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yello

yello

back and brave
Location
France
I'd heard it was part of the curriculum.

Part of detention as well; cane, lines or 'pleasure me'?
 

Nearly there

Veteran
Location
Cumbria
Ive known two people who have been inside one said it was easy as he just sat in his cell smoking dope apparently the guards prefered it keeps the inmates chilled:ohmy:(durham prison mid 90s) second person nearly died he was stabbed from behind with a shank needed blood transfusion(haverigg prison 2005) Both stories reflect characters the first guy was easy going but was easily led,the second guy had a temper and had a history of violence
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
No it isn't. It's actually safer than it has ever been, despite what the red-tops try to tell us. If you avoid teenage gangs and drunken yobs at chucking-out time, your chances of being involved in any violent incident are vanishingly small.
thankyou. That needed saying.

The most extraordinary precautions go in to reducing violence in prison - from the specification of the pain to the design of the toilets, to observation both visual and televisual that makes supermarket CCTV look worthless. I well remember getting told off for not sorting out the observation of an interview room - my mistake was to reckon that the prisoners were safe when being interviewed by the police, but the new prison governor told me that prison officers had to be ready to dash in to haul the police off the inmates (not the Met police, I hasten to add, but some northern outfit)
 

PBancroft

Senior Member
Location
Winchester
You might imagine he was a knuckle dragging, tattooed hard case, but in fact he was well dressed, articulate, polite kind of bloke, married with 3 kids and a good job.

He did say he thought nothing of breaking into a house if the chance arose justifying it by saying, ...................'well, any stuff will be insured''

His words didn't fit the bloke, it seemed odd.

I'm currently reading Jon Ronson's book about Psychopaths - your chap probably isn't one, but there is a good bit in it about how psychopaths justify their actions, and can otherwise seem quite "normal." For example, one guy who killed an aspiring actor was asked if he felt any remorse. He said not, as the victim probably wouldn't have made it into Hollywood anyway.

Back on topic, I bet that prisons are dull the vast majority of the time... I'm just not sure I'd want to be there when they're not.
 

Milo

Guru
Location
Melksham, Wilts
Piece of piss according to anyone I have ever known who has been early 90s onward. Not so nice before apparently. Dull though I am sure but then not getting yourself thrown in the slammer is a cracking solution to that one.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
I used to visit category B prisons as part of the job, and the one thing I really remember is sexual tension. Two of our team were young women, and you could just feel waves of not so much lust or even desire but, rather, a strange kind of sexual helplessness coming toward our little group.

Most people who end up in prison, even category B prisons, do so because they're not very bright and lack the imagination to make a go of the world without resorting to crime. I think that the lack of open-hearted and intelligent conversation would be every bit as hard to bear as the threat of violence.
 

Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
I think that the lack of open-hearted and intelligent conversation would be every bit as hard to bear as the threat of violence.
After five years on here you'd be used to that.
 
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yello

yello

back and brave
Location
France
I hadn't thought of that dell. I don't want to stereotype but I suspect there's an element of truth in it. Might scupper my plans ;)
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
thankyou. That needed saying.

The most extraordinary precautions go in to reducing violence in prison - from the specification of the pain to the design of the toilets,

Either you mean paint, or you've been designing torture suites....
 
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DiddlyDodds

Random Resident
Location
Littleborough
My brother was a warden in a young offenders prison up Lancaster way and every day he had to break fights up and restrain inmates , then got a move to Millum in the lakes , mainly all lifers there and said there is almost no problems , they all just got on with getting through the day , so ot depends on the prison you end up in.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
My brother was a warden in a young offenders prison up Lancaster way and every day he had to break fights up and restrain inmates , then got a move to Millum in the lakes , mainly all lifers there and said there is almost no problems , they all just got on with getting through the day , so ot depends on the prison you end up in.
sounds to me like we didn't achieve what we set out to achieve, then. Was he in the baby green block, the light blue block or the sicky yellow block?
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
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I you feel your life is in danger then you can go on numbers. 'Section 18' I think is the correct term ?
Going on numbers is where the paedophiles go and people that have gone the Queens evidence or have problems with other inmates and go there for there own safety

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It's rule 43.
 
I did several months as a medic at HMP Rollestone

This was a converted army camp with 360 Cat C prisoners during the prison officer's strike.

The amount of intimidation and low level violence was an eye-opener, as were some of the home made weapons found in routine searches.

Serious violence was rare, but extreme when it happened.

The strangest thing was that the really violent ones were rarely involved, it was a gang like mentality here the work would be done for them by other inmates
 
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