HP laptop won't boot up - help!

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crazyjoe101

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... you have to all but disassemble them to actually access the CMOS battery.

Laptop manufacturers just love doing that, apparently to stop some idiot from poking at the components. All it really does is make life hard when you attempt to conduct a simple fix or piece of maintenance such as reapplying thermal paste once or twice every two years...
 
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swee'pea99

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I'm more cynical than that...I reckon it's built in obsolescence. They want it to cost £150 to get fixed, so you'll buy a new one instead.
 

crazyjoe101

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I'm more cynical than that...I reckon it's built in obsolescence. They want it to cost £150 to get fixed, so you'll buy a new one instead.
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Of course. In the same way that Microsoft expect people to believe that they 'overlooked' the cooling system on the Xbox 360 which misallocated airflow in the system to the point where cooling can become completely ineffective if a moderate amount of dust is introduced into the system. A 20 minute max fix for them, which will void your warrenty and require a tool to 'fix' yourself (open, blow away dust).
 
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swee'pea99

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Thanks all. At the risk of hacking off people who wonder why I didn't cut to the chase, I ended up transferring the screen to an old carcass I had hanging around, along with the HD and RAM, and whaddya know, it's all fine.

Funny thing tho'... after I'd installed the screen then started t'other one, it took an absolute age to boot up - just sat there with the HP invent screen doing nowt for about five mins, to the point where I'd pretty much decided the CMOS in that one must have gone too (we're talking decade-old pooters here, after all). Then it suddenly went into Windows, and seemed to be behaving normally. So I ran some diagnostics/tuning stuff, defragmented, then restarted. It restarted almost as normal, but came up with a 'scheduled disk check' message. I let it run, and it found & fixed shedloads of issues, then restarted again, and now it all seems to be tickety-boo. The 'shedloads of issues' making me think it probably was simply software that had got its knickers into a twist during that aborted HP softpaq update.

Anyway, like I say, it all seems to be up & running again now, and me eldest's very pleased, so al is vell.
 

crazyjoe101

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Congradulations, in future I'd just download the drivers from the list and install them manually, I've not once seen an automated process work properly for drivers :sad:.
 
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swee'pea99

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Congradulations, in future I'd just download the drivers from the list and install them manually, I've not once seen an automated process work properly for drivers :sad:.
Well, I'm definitely once-bitten now....

Have to say, I was misled by a recent episode with my own HP laptop which was eventually sorted by using the softpaq download manager. On that occasion it worked flawlessly. And downloading individual drivers isn't always as easy as it should be. Device manager put a big yellow ? by 'mass storage device', eg. So I go to the relevant downloads page on HP's site. Is there a driver listed for mass storage device? ITF.
 

crazyjoe101

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"mass storage device" is a generic term used for a device with storage, such as a USB stick or a camera's memory card; are you sure you didn't have such a device plugged in? You may have had one plugged in in the past for which the driver did not install correctly or did not work properly with the XP OS. In general, the drivers for these devices don't really matter or work 'properly' anyway. After the little 'ready to use' message pops up they're plug n' play anyhow, even if the driver does not 'work'...
 
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swee'pea99

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Thanks. I guessed it was something along those lines, and basically ignored it. But it does illustrate my point - the difficulty of doing something as apparently basic as downloading drivers one by one, and hence the appeal of a program like softpaq manager that's at least supposed to cut you out of the loop and just sort things out between their servers and your computer.
 

JoeyB

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Did you try a cold reset at any point?

Remove battery, hard drive, RAM and leave for 4 hours or so...then reassemble and try again.
 
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swee'pea99

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Never heard of that, tho' I did try sticking it in the freezer for 20 mins, which I came across googling and thought what the hell. Made no difference.
 
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