Hybrid vs Road.

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bpsmith

Veteran
It depends on the surface, surely?

Surely were talking about surfaces that both bikes can actually use, or it's pretty obvious that you can't compare? ;)
 

KneesUp

Guru
Surely were talking about surfaces that both bikes can actually use, or it's pretty obvious that you can't compare? ;)
I've ridden on tow paths and The Middlewood Way on road bikes (at a time when the hire bikes on The Middlewood Way were Raleigh 20s) and I'd be quicker on a hybrid. I'm also quicker on my commute on my hybrid because the roads are so awful it genuinely feels like you are losing control of the road bike on the fast downhill bits, plus there is a hige power loss because of the vibrations. The wider tyres at lower pressures (70psi in my hybrid) are much better.

You might find these interesting.

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/science-and-bicycles-1-tires-and-pressure/

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/tires-how-wide-is-too-wide/

Of course a hybrid will tend to weigh more, but you feel that mainly on uphill bits. If it's flat where you ride it won't be such a big factor.
 

bpsmith

Veteran
@KneesUp i am aware of the gains of lower pressure on wider tyres. I run 25's on my roadies as a result.

The returns from wider tyres are significantly diminished by the weight of the hybrid bike and its heavier wheels mind you.

Only you know how this affects your riding in your local area, I acknowledge that.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Hybrid or Road? Why not give a roadster a go? Basically a road bike but slightly wider tyres to soak up the bumps and North Road bars for a variety of relaxed positions. Could be fastest of them all in typical non-race riding conditions... well, as long as the hub gearbox doesn't outweigh the benefits or something. ;-)

As usual, there seems to be some comment on lack of hand positions on hybrids. Other handlebars than flats and risers can be fitted there, you know?
 

bpsmith

Veteran
Your second link clearly states that running wider tyres requires a different frame design and that outweighs any benefits from the tyres themselves on rough roads.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
I made a 'road bike' out of a hybrid by putting some drop bars on it
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Specialized did exactly that with their Sirrus model, and called it a Secteur. Not sure that a Secteur qualifies as a proper road bike though, as the geometry gives a more upright riding position (that being the reason why I bought one!).
 

andyfraser

Über Member
Location
Bristol
My road bike is 2 - 3 mph quicker on my commute. That's not a lot but it makes a little difference. Moreover, my road bike is much more fun to ride. I like the position and find it comfortable. I'm one of those people who genuinely can use several different bikes.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I have three bikes. One an aluminium Scott road bike with 23mm tyres. an aluminium Ridgeback audax bike with 25mm tyres and one an old Carrera chromoly with a 28mm on the front and a 32mm on the back,all with drop handlebars. The Scott is considerably lighter than the Carrera but there's very little in speed between the two, they just give different rides. The Ridgeback has a little more relaxed position than the others. The main thing is that all three are different so i can choose what kind of ride i want to experience that day,instead of having the same pure roadies like some have. I wouldn't have a bike with straight bars though. I like the 6 or 7 positions offered by drops,although i spend most time on top of the bars.
 
OP
OP
Racing roadkill
Perhaps the OP can tell us what bikes he has. It takes more effort to ride a mtb style hybrid with 35c nobly tyres than it does a road bike.

The hybrid is a cheapy Riverside 3 from Decathlon. The current roady is a MY 14 Boardman pro Carbon. Over a 170 mile ride, on back roads, main roads, paths, tracks and urban, the Boardman was only about 45 minutes quicker (over 10 and a bit hours). The Riverside is running M+ (700*35c) the Boardman was on 700c*23c Aksion slicks. There was a difference in speeds on the hilly bits, but it was cancelled out by being able to barrel along on the Riverside without having to constantly avoid the rubbish bits of road. The opportunities to stretch the legs of the Roady properly are so few and far between, and the costs are so different, I find it difficult to justify the Roady now.

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They've changed the name of the hybrid, but it's the same bike.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
Your second link clearly states that running wider tyres requires a different frame design and that outweighs any benefits from the tyres themselves on rough roads.

Well I'd dispute that, not the different frame design but that it would outweigh benefits from tyres. You could easily make a frame that had the same angles, you'd need to lengthen chainstays, maybe front centre and ensure width and height clearance. Bung some 32/35 slicks on and I doubt that you'd get a marked difference in performance between the two. Depending of course on what you class as a marked difference.

But this only matters if you are racing or have some sort of Strava style fetish, barring that ride whatever gets you from A to B with the maximum level of enjoyment.
 
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