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anothersam

SMIDSMe
Location
Far East Sussex
...a cyclist zoomed past me, the ASZ and the red light, eventually stopping about four metres in front of said lights simply for the convenience of being able to lean against a signpost so he didn't have to unclip and could be ready to belt off the second the lights changed.
As he belatedly stopped for the light but didn't enter the intersection until it was green, essentially this looks like a crime against paint.
 
I tend to go right to the front of the ASL,so that my rear tyre is just touching the front of the ASL. The reason I do this is because I'm sick and tired of having to re-true my wheel, every time some plank (usually in some kind of vehicle) nudges the rear wheel, because they don't quite get the whole ASL thing. I don't own any John McEnroe sweatbands though.
 
Goodness, you must be ever so unlucky to have had multiple events of such a nature.
I'm like a flipping magnet for these idiots, it's usually caused by them moving off quicker than I can, and then failing to understand what brakes are for.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Goodness, you must be ever so unlucky to have had multiple events of such a nature.

I'm like a flipping magnet for these idiots, it's usually caused by them moving off quicker than I can, and then failing to understand what brakes are for.

And some....
This has only ever happened once that I can ever remember in over 30 years on and off cycle commuting in London.
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
And some....
This has only ever happened once that I can ever remember in over 30 years on and off cycle commuting in London.
I've had it once and it was a gentle nudge not enough to do any damage to the bike at all. In order to accurately represent the impact, I just looked around at the driver. Didn't shout, gesticulate or put my bike on the ground.
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
Location
Midlands
If he had a shock of hair and a headband then he should have been trackstanding not looking for a lampost. I just assume he was riding a fixie - if not he should have been tazered.
 
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simongt

simongt

Guru
Location
Norwich
Just to muddy the waters of justification / better things to do etc., in December 2014, a cyclist who had gone in front of the ASZ because it was occupied by a car was given a fixed-penalty-notice by a constable. The issuing constable hadn't seen the incident, but had been radioed ahead by a colleague who had. Thus he wasn't in a position to have witnessed the incident or assess the risks involved before making a judgement. The cyclist in question had made his decision to stop in front of the ASZ because he needed to turn right and to stay on the inside would have required him to cross three lanes of traffic, not good in any cyclists book. The offending motorist was ignored.
 
Just to muddy the waters of justification / better things to do etc., in December 2014, a cyclist who had gone in front of the ASZ because it was occupied by a car was given a fixed-penalty-notice by a constable. The issuing constable hadn't seen the incident, but had been radioed ahead by a colleague who had. Thus he wasn't in a position to have witnessed the incident or assess the risks involved before making a judgement. The cyclist in question had made his decision to stop in front of the ASZ because he needed to turn right and to stay on the inside would have required him to cross three lanes of traffic, not good in any cyclists book. The offending motorist was ignored.
This is why I always make sure my wheel is in contact with the ASL, they can bollox if they want to argue that one.
 

Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
Just to muddy the waters of justification / better things to do etc., in December 2014, a cyclist who had gone in front of the ASZ because it was occupied by a car was given a fixed-penalty-notice by a constable. The issuing constable hadn't seen the incident, but had been radioed ahead by a colleague who had. Thus he wasn't in a position to have witnessed the incident or assess the risks involved before making a judgement. The cyclist in question had made his decision to stop in front of the ASZ because he needed to turn right and to stay on the inside would have required him to cross three lanes of traffic, not good in any cyclists book. The offending motorist was ignored.

Was there an offending motorist?

I understood that if a motorist enters a ANZ whilst the lights are not red, if for example they were stranded there when the lights changed to red, then there is no offence, provided they do not cross the second white line.
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
Has anyone yet found the ASL to be of any use whatsoever? Why not just filter towards the front of the traffic, leave one car possibly two in front of you and then slot in to the traffic with regards to whichever way you may be turning when the light goes green. Simples. I've not been hit from behind at a traffic light in London, I've not had 33 tonnes of truck run into the back of me in London. I have had stupid cyclists pack ASZs with no regard to which direction they are going eg push to the front, position yourself on the left cos there's a barrier to hold and then attempt to turn right. It wins many friends. Not least the big bloke behind you.
 
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