I hate my neighbours

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shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
my sympathies too - I've been round hammering on my neighbours door tonight as the rumbling shooting noises of the soldier game they were playing on their console was drowning out my music and shaking the pictures on the walls.
 

JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
Bongman said:
I cant exactly say the neighbours and I get on very well.

I moved from my last place where we had considerate neighbours to our current rented house next door to a pair of "How dare these tenants spoil our house that we have paid for" middle aged couple, with no children.

I like my music. I like to play it reasonably loud from time to time. The first time I tried this (during the day ofc) they were round like a shot, complaining that they can hear my music in their house. I agreed to keep the music down indefinitely, and have done.

Its a shame. Because of them, we now hardly ever listen to music and we are always worried that the tv is too loud when watching a film/TV. Constantly turning the volume up and down to try and hear the films dialogue/programme, but not annoy the neighbours with the loud bits/adverts.

About a year ago the husband was furiously banging on our door as we were playing a little music. Not very loud IMO, barely 1/4 of the volume level possible. He said (very angrily) that he is going to report us to the landlord. We hadn’t played any music for months! We have no other place to play music. So they are invariably preventing us ever playing anything.

I had enough, told him where to go as it was only 20:30 at night. He had no idea there was a cut off point at 23:00, but was all ready to try and get us evicted!

A few weeks ago, we had him (or possibly her?) banging on the walls because our daughter was rattling her cot. WTF am I supposed to do about that!?

We also are unable to put the washing machine on overnight (or later than about 22:30) due to the noise they hear :biggrin:

And just what gives you the right to inflict your music on your neighbours?
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
the question of rights doesn't really arise. It's a question of degree. Nobody has a right not to hear their neighbours, and, to be frank, the person who insists that they should not hear their neighbours is a slice short of a sandwich

It really is a matter of judgement, or concensus. When does the noise become an impostion. When conversation is difficult? When the noise is discernible for hours on end? Is intermittent noise acceptable?

We're getting fussier and fussier. I'm reminded of Ben Lovejoy's rejection of the word 'scab'. We think that we are on our own, untroubled and uninfluenced by others. We think that privacy includes freedom from awareness of others, and connections to others.

This is rubbish. Selfish. Inadequate. People make noise. It's a question of working out how much is acceptable to most of us. A party every few months, big sex on Sunday mornings, teenagers playing loud music when their parents are out, that's the stuff of life. If we're so tender that we can't stand the sound of others then we're too tender to like people.
 
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Plax

Plax

Guru
Location
Wales
dellzeqq said:
the question of rights doesn't really arise. It's a question of degree. Nobody has a right not to hear their neighbours, and, to be frank, the person who insists that they should not hear their neighbours is a slice short of a sandwich

It really is a matter of judgement, or concensus. When does the noise become an impostion. When conversation is difficult? When the noise is discernible for hours on end? Is intermittent noise acceptable?

We're getting fussier and fussier. I'm reminded of Ben Lovejoy's rejection of the word 'scab'. We think that we are on our own, untroubled and uninfluenced by others. We think that privacy includes freedom from awareness of others, and connections to others.

This is rubbish. Selfish. Inadequate. People make noise. It's a question of working out how much is acceptable to most of us. A party every few months, big sex on Sunday mornings, teenagers playing loud music when their parents are out, that's the stuff of life. If we're so tender that we can't stand the sound of others then we're too tender to like people.

Darn I've been found out! :biggrin:

Seriously though, living in a corner terrace / any attached abode it's a fact of life there is going to be noise. You'd be deranged to think otherwise. What I object to is the unsociable hours and sheer volume of the noise. Sure if it happened every now and then it would be tolerable, but everytime they are home and after polite requests to keep it down it becomes in my opinion totally unacceptable.

The neighbour on the other side is fine. Sure he makes a noise, you can regularly hear his surround sound and he occassionally will play a song really loud (bizarely usually only one song) and occassionally you can hear him singing (he has his own band). I have no beef with that as he doesn't do that on a regular basis and it' never been past 11pm when he does. He has certainly never caused me any sleepless nights or woken me up at 3am.
In my opinion it's all about balance and respect for other people, which Mr Inconsiderate Tw@t is severly lacking.
 
I don't mind noise although silence is golden but I do object people making noise and geting drunk every night of the week all night because they have nothing else to do.Especially when I have to go to work early in the morning.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Plax said:
Darn I've been found out! :biggrin:

Seriously though, living in a corner terrace / any attached abode it's a fact of life there is going to be noise. You'd be deranged to think otherwise. What I object to is the unsociable hours and sheer volume of the noise. Sure if it happened every now and then it would be tolerable, but everytime they are home and after polite requests to keep it down it becomes in my opinion totally unacceptable.

The neighbour on the other side is fine. Sure he makes a noise, you can regularly hear his surround sound and he occassionally will play a song really loud (bizarely usually only one song) and occassionally you can hear him singing (he has his own band). I have no beef with that as he doesn't do that on a regular basis and it' never been past 11pm when he does. He has certainly never caused me any sleepless nights or woken me up at 3am.
In my opinion it's all about balance and respect for other people, which Mr Inconsiderate Tw@t is severly lacking.


Plax - This is what you need ............ :laugh:.


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CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
dellzeqq said:
We think that we are on our own, untroubled and uninfluenced by others. We think that privacy includes freedom from awareness of others, and connections to others.
What a bizarre world you inhabit, Simon. Nobody thinks any such thing.
 

JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
dellzeqq said:
the question of rights doesn't really arise. It's a question of degree. Nobody has a right not to hear their neighbours, and, to be frank, the person who insists that they should not hear their neighbours is a slice short of a sandwich

It really is a matter of judgement, or concensus. When does the noise become an impostion. When conversation is difficult? When the noise is discernible for hours on end? Is intermittent noise acceptable?

We're getting fussier and fussier. I'm reminded of Ben Lovejoy's rejection of the word 'scab'. We think that we are on our own, untroubled and uninfluenced by others. We think that privacy includes freedom from awareness of others, and connections to others.

This is rubbish. Selfish. Inadequate. People make noise. It's a question of working out how much is acceptable to most of us. A party every few months, big sex on Sunday mornings, teenagers playing loud music when their parents are out, that's the stuff of life. If we're so tender that we can't stand the sound of others then we're too tender to like people.


The question of "rights" does arise. In Common Law, we are entitled to " .. the peaceful enjoyment.." of our homes.

And there is a wealth of difference between the sound of daily living, whether it be a baby crying or a washing machine on its spin cycle, and someone choosing to play music so loud in his own home it can be heard in other people's homes.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
JamesAC said:
The question of "rights" does arise. In Common Law, we are entitled to " .. the peaceful enjoyment.." of our homes.

And there is a wealth of difference between the sound of daily living, whether it be a baby crying or a washing machine on its spin cycle, and someone choosing to play music so loud in his own home it can be heard in other people's homes.
This is the crux of it all. Any case brought or considered by an environmental nuisance team will determine what is acceptable domestic noise, and what is inconsiderate nuisance noise. Levels, timing, duration etc all play a part.

I hear what Dell is saying by the way. All too often people believe themselves to be so much the centre of the known universe that anything that isn't generated or carried out for their exclusive pleasure is deemed a nuisance. We have historical examples of no church bells on Sundays, farmers with injunctions to stop them using machinery before 8 am etc.

However, there is a masive amount of live and let live to deal with before we move onto prosecution, but Plax carefully documents and describes what appears to be unacceptable behaviour by her neighbours. There is plenty of legislation to use, so she must invoke it. Reason appears to have left by a side door as far as negotiation is concerned.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I must admit I've usually had good neighbours .. just occasionally they wake us us... and we usually are unaware they have had a party until its time for the guests to leave ... cue lots of loud chatting on the doorstep and then half an hour later just as you have got to sleep again they put out all the empties in the recycling bin making a racket (I'm a lazy slob that would leave that until the morning). But that's just normal relationships between neighbours - as in occasionally their life affects yours.

The stuff mentioned in this thread is something that so far I haven't experienced when your neighbour seriously impacts on your life ... but I always dread the For Sale sign just in case. You all have my sympathy and hope that the problems are soon resolved without getting you down too much more.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
dellzeqq said:
the question of rights doesn't really arise. It's a question of degree. Nobody has a right not to hear their neighbours, and, to be frank, the person who insists that they should not hear their neighbours is a slice short of a sandwich

It really is a matter of judgement, or concensus. When does the noise become an impostion. When conversation is difficult? When the noise is discernible for hours on end? Is intermittent noise acceptable?

We're getting fussier and fussier. I'm reminded of Ben Lovejoy's rejection of the word 'scab'. We think that we are on our own, untroubled and uninfluenced by others. We think that privacy includes freedom from awareness of others, and connections to others.

This is rubbish. Selfish. Inadequate. People make noise. It's a question of working out how much is acceptable to most of us. A party every few months, big sex on Sunday mornings, teenagers playing loud music when their parents are out, that's the stuff of life. If we're so tender that we can't stand the sound of others then we're too tender to like people.

That's a good post. Nothing to add really, except that in my last house (we're detached now) we didn't complain about being able to hear our neighbour's telly all the time and they didn't complain about my band practising or me playing my music.
 

gb155

Fan Boy No More.
Location
Manchester-Ish
D-Lock ? :ohmy:


Joking aside one department I worked for is environmental health, start the ball rolling ASAP, its a long process, if they shut up for a few days....dont think its all over,keep the case open as long as you can as in 99% of cases they shut up when they get a letter from environmental health but once the shock wears off they start again.

Good luck
 
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