I hit a car

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HJ

Cycling in Scotland
Location
Auld Reekie
Touche said:
Ride fixed to sharpen your anticipation skills and you don't.

BentMikey said:
Nothing to do with the brakes IMO, just failure to anticipate.

Aye yous are right, he should have been looking where he was going... :biggrin:
 

JiMBR

Senior Member
Location
Glasgow
magnatom said:
I'm surprised at the lack of abuse so far on my youtube video...apart from one CC member of course....:biggrin::biggrin:

FFS...you thought you were going to stop in time in those conditions!?!?

I'm surprised that you did not anticipate the situation better...after all, you are an experienced cyclist.

Why did you not anticipate the car behind accelerating to take your intended space.......god damn NOOB!!!


Will that do Maggers? :biggrin:
 

Randochap

Senior hunter
Ooops! Glad there's no injuries.

Agree that disk brakes win out in conditions like that (same here at moment) which is why I recommend them on my Winter Cycling page.

It's interesting that so many UK commuters seem to use helmet cams. It hasn't caught on here as much. Could really come in handy when there was a question of culpability ... though here you've obviously proven your own!
 
I can't dispute these arguments in favour of disk brakes, since I've no experience of them. What about hub brakes instead (as often seen on tandems)? But not the old 'coaster' brake often seen on the Continent, where you had to back-pedal (on a single-speed). I found those to be erratic in use and never felt comfortable, also they're useless down steep hills.

What I don't want, is for people, especially beginners, who only have rim brakes (as on almost all road bikes) to feel they are precluded from going out in the rain. Not so in the slightest. I have cycled in rain countless times with rim brakes alone, and never really had a problem provided the brakes are properly maintained and adjusted. You need to test your brakes periodically (when it's safe) to wipe off the film of water on the rim, and be aware that stopping distances are greater (as they would be, say, on ice or snow). And if I'm going to have trouble braking in the wet, I find it's usually the wheel breaking away from the road surface first.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Disc brakes aren't *that* much better than rim brakes on the road. The difference comes mostly down to having considerably less lever force and better modulation. Then there's a small difference in immediately accessible stopping force, whereas with rim brakes it might take a moment to break through the film of water on the rims.
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
Not wishing to get serious about this but apart from some very wet rides where I haven't had to brake for a while (ref BM's film of water on the rims) the limiting component in stopping in the wet for me is the tyres. The times I've had to pull hard stops in the wet, the brake have griped the rims fine but unless I've modulated the braking force just so, its the tyres breaking traction that have extended the stopping distance.
 

Bman

Guru
Location
Herts.
More importantly, Hows the bike!? Is your wheel still true (unlike the bloke who headbutted that bus, lol)?
 
Has anyone any experience of using the koolstop salmon or dual compound brake pads for wet conditions?
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Bollo said:
Not wishing to get serious about this but apart from some very wet rides where I haven't had to brake for a while (ref BM's film of water on the rims) the limiting component in stopping in the wet for me is the tyres. The times I've had to pull hard stops in the wet, the brake have griped the rims fine but unless I've modulated the braking force just so, its the tyres breaking traction that have extended the stopping distance.

That's why it's harder to brake well in the wet with rim brakes - it can sometimes be easy to pull hard to get through the water film, and then end up skidding the front wheel when the brake pads get rid of the water and bite.

semislickstick said:
Has anyone any experience of using the koolstop salmon or dual compound brake pads for wet conditions?

I like Salmon Koolstop because they are soft and don't wear my rims as much, and have plenty of braking power.
 
BentMikey said:
Disc brakes aren't *that* much better than rim brakes on the road. The difference comes mostly down to having considerably less lever force and better modulation. Then there's a small difference in immediately accessible stopping force, whereas with rim brakes it might take a moment to break through the film of water on the rims.

I take it you are talking as if the rimmed braked wheel is perfectly true.

My rear brake on the older Audax is not that good although it needs attention and probably replacement.
 

Jane Smart

The Queen
Location
Dunfermline Fife
JiMBR said:
FFS...you thought you were going to stop in time in those conditions!?!?

I'm surprised that you did not anticipate the situation better...after all, you are an experienced cyclist.

Why did you not anticipate the car behind accelerating to take your intended space.......god damn NOOB!!!


Will that do Maggers? :biggrin:

Yep Jim, to the point as usual ;)

:smile:

:biggrin:
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
andyfromotley said:
wet?

Rims?....pah
discs?..........pah, grrrr
you need one of these bad boys.
AnchorDeptfordLarge.jpg

That must be why lots of drivers shout "Anchor!" at me. They just want me to have some way of stopping safely in the wet. How kind.
 
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