I pay Road Tax, I can do what I want!

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Debian

New Member
Location
West Midlands
carltonreid said:
Those who buy the jersey can get a £10 Foska voucher if they take a pic of the jersey being worn in a mass start event (Critical Mass or sportive) and then send it in. So, thirty quid for a jersey ain't so bad.

Paid £6.99 for the last one I bought!
 

carltonreid

New Member
Norm said:
Indeed, as I pointed out last time this pedant's revolt arose, the government / DVLA calls it a tax disc.

Other parts of the Government call it 'road tax'! HMRC, for instance. And DirectGov: http://ipayroadtax.com/?p=149

My campaign is to get these official orgs to recognise it as VED or car tax but NOT 'road tax'. I'm having some success. The President of the AA, Edmund King, now rides with the jersey (he called it "iconic, ironic and iconoclastic"): http://www.bikebiz.com/news/31884/AA-president-praises-cycling-campaign

I have provided amendments to the VED briefing document in the House of Commons library. Some MPs and Peers have been personally handed their own Bicycle Excise Duty tax discs and I aim to keep banging on with the message for as long as it takes.
 

Lizban

New Member
Road tax is a term that people use - just llke the 'tax man' is actually HMRC 'stamp' is NI to some people. I know the differance but still ask for a tax disk I the post office

It's pedant's point - the larger issue is the attitude - if it wasn't VED or 'Road Tax' they would have a pop about somthing
 

StuartG

slower but no further
Location
SE London
My club jersey cost half of the Road Tax and is high quality. That is a even lower volume. If we want a high volume impact then it means a more down market price.

It isn't that I can't afford it. It just seems out of line with what the critical masses would expect to pay for such a product.

That's because we are mean, but mean and lean and ready to put the message across but at a lower cost.
 
I think the pedantic argument about 'Road Tax' has run its course, what? Shall we agree that when someone bleats about 'paying road tax' we all concede that he or she's referring to that little circle of paper and move on, yes?

What is more bothersome is your MC'ist's utterance (expletive deleted):
"Biker: I pay Road Tax and I can do what I want!!!"

You could try explaining to him, that 99.9% of all road users (including a large majority of cyclists and pedestrians) are also coughing up annually for that paper circle. So if each and every one of them can 'do what they want', then where are we??? :laugh:

Like the near-miss I witnessed this morning, between a pick-up truck and a car, on a roundabout (I was well out of the way :laugh:) I didn't catch the words in the following altercation, the car driver was in the right seeing as he was already on the roundabout, the pickup driver entering the R/B just 'did what he wanted' presumably because he 'pays road tax'...

The only person who really could 'do what he wanted' on the roads was the late dictator of a certain African country, who decreed that the centre lane in every road was reserved for his limo and no other vehicle...
 
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manalog

manalog

Über Member
661-Pete said:
I think the pedantic argument about 'Road Tax' has run its course, what? Shall we agree that when someone bleats about 'paying road tax' we all concede that he or she's referring to that little circle of paper and move on, yes?

What is more bothersome is your MC'ist's utterance (expletive deleted):
"Biker: I pay Road Tax and I can do what I want!!!"

You could try explaining to him, that 99.9% of all road users (including a large majority of cyclists and pedestrians) are also coughing up annually for that paper circle. So if each and every one of them can 'do what they want', then where are we??? :laugh:

Like the near-miss I witnessed this morning, between a pick-up truck and a car, on a roundabout (I was well out of the way :laugh:) I didn't catch the words in the following altercation, the car driver was in the right seeing as he was already on the roundabout, the pickup driver entering the R/B just 'did what he wanted' presumably because he 'pays road tax'...

The only person who really could 'do what he wanted' on the roads was the late dictator of a certain African country, who decreed that the centre lane in every road was reserved for his limo and no other vehicle...

In fact when he said this to me, I was going to say I will ran you off the road next time I see you in my Car because I pay more "Road Tax" than you but I didn't as I didn't want to go down to his level.
 

HJ

Cycling in Scotland
Location
Auld Reekie
manalog said:
I was waiting in the ASL in King William St heading towards Moorgate when I became aware of a Motorbike being ridden agressively and heading towards me from the off side and just managed to miss me.

Me: Oiiiii
Biker: What?!!!
Me: There is no need for that kind of Riding
Biker: I pay Road Tax and I can do what I effing want!!!
Me: There is no such thing as a Road Tax (in a calm voice)
Biker: His jaw dropped and didn't know what to say.
Me: Honestly, no one pay Road Tax since 1937. Look it up if you want.
Me: By the way, why are you so angry? Swearing and Shouting at me.
Biker: No, I wasn't angry..
Me: Yes, you were.

Off he went to the next set of lights and I'm happy that I managed to put my point across.

I can't beleive there are Road users like this as this is my first time I had this argument.

Perhaps we can have something similar to the "God Kills a Kitten everytime a Cyclist RLJs". We can have a sticker like "There is No such thing as Road Tax" on Lamp Posts.

Just to add to the fun, you could have added that according to Rule 178 Highway Code Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g., if the junction ahead is blocked. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows. So he could get three points on his licence, for failing to stop at the first line.

But that lot would need a very long light ;)
 

carltonreid

New Member
BentMikey said:
Hey Carlton - is it just me, or are you not approving negative comments on the cycle superhighways video on your youtube profile?

99.9 percent on my YouTube vids have open comments. That doesn't. I have to approve the comments. I don't check that often but have now okayed the one comment in the queue.

YouTube comments can get very ugly very quickly. And there are lots of them and hard to police.
 
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