I was shot at tonight in lewisham.

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jonny jeez

Legendary Member
Had a fabulous ride home tonight...well almost

I forgot my helmet and somehow found the freedom of riding with an unfettered noggin to be both exhilarating and extremely comfortable. At the very least it delivered variety into the daily commute.

I've ridden a fair bit of late and am even feeling confident on the hilly bits. Tonight the air was warm and still, the sun was up and it was as if summer had popped back to say hello.

I picked up a puncture at Westminster and was unfazed, the large stone seats around parliament fields provided an ideal workstation and tourists took pictures as I worked efficiently and happily (even lining up the tyre logos the the valve and rim decales (very pro!).

Big Ben confirmed my tube change took under 8 minutes. Hamilton would have been proud.

My second puncture occurred at the foot of the Old Kent road..."hmmmm, that's not right" thinks me, okay still a bit of sunlight and two canisters left in my pack. 10 minutes later I rolled on.

At the bottom of armpit hill the front went for a third time. "That's proper wrong", I thought as I began to forensically examine the inside of the tyre and the rim under the blue antidrugs lights of Lewisham arches.

15 minutes later I'm ready for a sprint home as I drop the bike off the kerb and set up at the the lights.

I roll forward...and It was then that I was shot at. The weapon was loud, powerful and close. The shot echoed loud around the tall flats and arches. Doors bolted, curtains drew and lewisham went quiet...for a second. The aim was stead as the marksman managed to blow my tyre clean off (dirty harry style) the rim.

I was now sat at the lights confused and dazed. Some locals ducked for cover, whilst one or two others (not so local looking) reached inside their jackets with one finger in an ear as they talked to their lapels.

But it was OK, there was no shooter, not even a grassy knowle...just an over inflated inner-tube and an under inflated pride.

what a muppet, I used my minipump to start the tyre off and forgot I'd put 30 psi in already (to check for pinches), the cannister added 120 more for company. It was all too much for the poor tube and it literally blew itself from the rim.

Now, this tale does come with a question.

Under the clear halogen lights of the workshop I can see a tiny (like 1mm) slit in my brand new (and very pretty) schwalbe's. Clearly enough tube is present when the tyre expands to allow the tube to hit the outside world. So the question is, will a tyre boot take care of this or do I need a new tyre (after two weeks of owning this one)

PS I recall hearing something metallic ping from under my tyre as I exited Hyde park and thinking...phew that was close.

clearly it was closer than I thought.

nice ride though
 

Norm

Guest
I'd say there's a lot of dependencies (biggest of which is whether it went through any of the wires), but I'd also say that I've stuck puncture patches on several holes which sound similar to that on City Jets and other brands and, and I haven't had any problems. Thinking about it, I used one on my Secteur when it had done about 30 miles, and that's got 1500 miles on it now without an issue.
 
Although I can't offer any advice about tyres (I didn't even know what inner tubes were until about a week ago...), I can relate to that sudden panic when you automatically assume that the worst thing possible has happened, when in fact it's really just an accident or a false alarm. There's no shame in fearing for the worst :smile: (especially, dare I say it, in Lewisham).
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I think Jonny is referring to the noise a high pressure tyre makes when they go bang - I doubt he ever thought it was a gun.

The noise is impressive. I scared the pants out of a dog walker at 6.30am on a Sunday at the beginning of September. Pootling through the local park to get to the main road then BOOM, instant flat.

They are even more impressive on wet roads as you end up with the noise and a huge cloud of spray/mist.
 
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jonny jeez

Legendary Member
They are even more impressive on wet roads as you end up with the noise and a huge cloud of spray/mist.
See, now the competitive part of me somehow want to see that happen now..."must have a more dramatic blow out than Fossy".

Was certainly a new one for me, Funny thing is, it happened at I touched my brakes (which I now know was just pure co-incidence) but It felt even more dramatic for that
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Shame we can't get shot of Lewisham.

Tyre boot or a puncture patch stuck on the inside of the tyre should do it. Keep an eye on the slit - I've heard of cunning ruses using super glue to gloop up the hole but never done it.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
See, now the competitive part of me somehow want to see that happen now..."must have a more dramatic blow out than Fossy".

Was certainly a new one for me, Funny thing is, it happened at I touched my brakes (which I now know was just pure co-incidence) but It felt even more dramatic for that

It was many years ago - on a club run and my tyres were getting a bit 'worn' - they just went. Sounded like a light bulb going bang - very loud, spray everywhere.

I can also vouch for exploding rims - they go bang in an impressive way too. :wacko:
 
These are just my thoughts....

I have had to use tyre boots extensively whilst on tour. They do what you need - get you going again and it was soon easy to forget they were there. We then went nearly 4,000km on that inner tube, boot and tyre combination until the next flat. Never really explained the flat, simply swapped it out for another inner tube and went less than 50km on it before it went flat. Switched the now patched original inner tube back on and managed about another 1,500km before a blow out of all mighty proportions in the middle of nowhere (think echoing off the mountains in a norwegian fjord) with no spare tyre whilst trying to catch the only ferry of the day... We were lucky my husband was not going at speed and was on the flat with wide open roads and little traffic...

What we noticed was that the original inner tube was a much thicker rubber (a Schwalbe one). The replacement was a generic picked up off the shelf brand whilst in a supermarket and was exceptionally thin. Both inner tubes failed at one of the corners of the boot. It had rubbed through the inner tube. Our rear tyres were only at 80psi (plus fully loaded touring bike, can't lift it weight) and we did not have easy access to a sensible replacement. (We were lucky in that we had 26" wheels so a shop removed a tyre from a display bike and sold us that. Otherwise we would have had a 7-10 day weight whilst one was 'shipped' in by ferry up the coast of Norway.)

Personally in this country irrespective of the cost of the new tyre and taking into account the cost of 'risk to life', I would not risk it and certainly not on a road bike, on busy streets with the usually less than sympatheic/understanding road users.
 

ttcycle

Cycling Excusiast
Bloody Hell Johhny- 'clips him around the ears'...you're such a drama queen.

Depending on how thick the gash is you might be able to repair with either a patch or a bit of clear nail varnish.
 

400bhp

Guru
I'm torn (pun intentional) between "liking" your post.

If i "like it" it could be misconstrued as liking the fact you had an unfortunate incident.

I like your post.

I'll let you [Jonny] decide whether I should like the original post.
 

PpPete

Legendary Member
Location
Chandler's Ford
The drive way area in which I do most of my fettling is surrounded on three sides. House wall, Tall garden fence, Garage door.
This effectively channels the sound from the occasional "detonation" - to bounce off the house opposite.
The echos are very dramatic, but I'm always a little worried about the plod's firearms unit rocking up a few minutes later.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Funny thing is, it happened at I touched my brakes (which I now know was just pure co-incidence) but It felt even more dramatic for that

It may not have been, if you'd inadvertently left a bulge of inner tube sticking out, the brakes would have burst that. How do I know this? Because I've done it too. ^_^
 

Teuchter

Über Member
I would say that if decide to try a tyre boot as a permanent solution, at least move the questionable tyre onto the back wheel. If it does go wrong, I'd far rather have a rear than a front tyre blow out.
 
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