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Gixxerman
Guru
- Location
- Market Rasen
It was very much tongue in cheek. I was second-guessing his reasons for doing it from his point of view.
Idiot in car trying to make a point by driving down cyclepath
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fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
bozmandb9
Insert witty title here
- Location
- South Oxfordshire
I would nearly always choose to use roads rather than cycle path. Most cycle paths are not suitable for road bike tyres, or road bike speeds, in my experience they are dangerous at road biking speeds, and frustrating to use, often taking you off route, not to mention frequent stops at give way points where they are intersected.
Cycle paths are, in my view, great for recreational cyclists to use, to cycle away from the roads. Sharing use with road cyclists is, in many cases, a spectacularly bad idea. I guess the clues in the name (road bike/ road cyclist).
Bazzer
Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
- Location
- On the edge of reality
Wot? Reading a "newspaper" as well as demonstrating his eligibility to the tossers club?
Just a pity there were not a couple bricks in the places where he crossed, to knacker his suspension.
russ.will
Slimboy Fat
- Location
- The Fen Edge
I'd like to point out that the cycle path is very much welcome and I use it regularly - Just not on my roadie. I use it on the MTB or Charge Plug and without it, a village full of cyclists and pedestrians of all ages, joggers, etc, would be isolated from the larger village (Cottenham) that has all of the shops, bank machines, take-aways, etc, with nought but a grass verged open limit country road to connect them.
Imperfect as it is, it's one helluva lot better than walking against that sort of a traffic and I'm glad it is there.
If you want an example of farkwit local planning, then it's the [mis]Guided Busway that has a wide flat and fast cycleway adjacent to it, running a scant 400m from the end of our village and runs directly into Cambridge. Now despite the fact we're only 6 miles as the crow flies from Cambridge, we only get two buses per day. One at 7am and one at 7pm. Despite this howling opportunity to integrate and improve infrastructure, there is neither a stop at our village, nor even a surfaced path to the MGB.
That my friends, IS a transport planning failure.
Russell
Imperfect as it is, it's one helluva lot better than walking against that sort of a traffic and I'm glad it is there.
If you want an example of farkwit local planning, then it's the [mis]Guided Busway that has a wide flat and fast cycleway adjacent to it, running a scant 400m from the end of our village and runs directly into Cambridge. Now despite the fact we're only 6 miles as the crow flies from Cambridge, we only get two buses per day. One at 7am and one at 7pm. Despite this howling opportunity to integrate and improve infrastructure, there is neither a stop at our village, nor even a surfaced path to the MGB.
That my friends, IS a transport planning failure.
Russell
russ.will
Slimboy Fat
- Location
- The Fen Edge
As I drink with the farmer who does a lot of the hedge cutting and maintenance of local drainage infrastructure (something your crowd in Somerset are probably taking more seriously now!) I am reliably told that it is not possible/allowed between 1st March to 31st August due to an EU regulation protecting breeding/rearing season. there are derogations possible, but none that apply on the two stretches in question. More here.
Russell
PS. He slows down to 25mph to let me draught him in his tractor when we see each other. A good egg.
coffeejo
Ælfrēd
- Location
- West Somerset
mjr meant that if the hedge/bush had been cut back in February v it wouldn't have grown back so much.
russ.will
Slimboy Fat
- Location
- The Fen Edge
To be fair, it was. In late January I think, but with a warm wet summer, things grow like wild fire in The Fens.
Russell
Russell
r04DiE
300km a week through London on a road bike.
[QUOTE 4452669, member: 45"]The "we are traffic" tag is used to underline that bikes have a rightful place on the road.
I would agree with that, but argue that a bicycle isn't just a road vehicle and so isn't just traffic. It has as rightful a place on a cycle track or shared use path as on the road. We should not deny those who choose not to mix with traffic the opportunity to get around by bicycle.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but a bicycle being ridden is traffic, and that's it. It's not anything else. You might mean that people who don't want to mix with motor vehicles should have the choice.
I would agree with that, but argue that a bicycle isn't just a road vehicle and so isn't just traffic. It has as rightful a place on a cycle track or shared use path as on the road. We should not deny those who choose not to mix with traffic the opportunity to get around by bicycle.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but a bicycle being ridden is traffic, and that's it. It's not anything else. You might mean that people who don't want to mix with motor vehicles should have the choice.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Should still cut it back more. On the Somerset levels, they generally cut hedges back far more severely than in the fens... plus the ones to the south and east are kept low, so that the sun can thaw the road earlier in winters.
r04DiE
300km a week through London on a road bike.
[QUOTE 4452847, member: 45"]I think you know what I'm saying. I'm not arguing about definitions - I've already acknowledged that pedestrians are also traffic. This is about bicycles being more than road traffic.[/QUOTE]You said:
[QUOTE 4452244, member: 45"]Dawdlers are traffic if they want to be.[/QUOTE]I said:
So let's not take over this thread any longer, please feel free to message me if you want to discuss this further. It's okay to admit that you got this wrong, there's nothing terriblre about admitting you're wrong. Traffic is traffic.
[QUOTE 4452244, member: 45"]Dawdlers are traffic if they want to be.[/QUOTE]I said:
That is all, so stop trying to confuse the issue, derail the content and split hairs like I so often see you do, just so that you can look right all the time. At the end of the day 'Dawdlers', i.e. people riding bicycles are traffic, as I pointed out initially and it is fruitless and rather silly for you to try to propose that they are more than that.
So let's not take over this thread any longer, please feel free to message me if you want to discuss this further. It's okay to admit that you got this wrong, there's nothing terriblre about admitting you're wrong. Traffic is traffic.
Alien8
Senior Moment
- Location
- (A little bit north of) Cambridge
Ah, the joys of the Cottenham/Rampton cycle path.
Lamp post & telegraph pole in the way? No problem.
You can read about its other features here.
The path was upgraded to its current state in 2008 when the Council decided they wanted to remove the free Rampton/Cottenham school bus whilst encouraging walking/cycling to school.
They quickly caved in to the wails of protest from the parents and agreed that the new path was indeed not safe.
And a mere eight years later they have been proved right!
Lamp post & telegraph pole in the way? No problem.
You can read about its other features here.
The path was upgraded to its current state in 2008 when the Council decided they wanted to remove the free Rampton/Cottenham school bus whilst encouraging walking/cycling to school.
They quickly caved in to the wails of protest from the parents and agreed that the new path was indeed not safe.
And a mere eight years later they have been proved right!
r04DiE
300km a week through London on a road bike.
[QUOTE 4452970, member: 45"]I've not disagreed with you.[/QUOTE]No, I have disagreed with you.
[QUOTE 4452970, member: 45"]...so my point...[/QUOTE]Your 'point' was that people on bicycles are able to choose whether or not they are traffic, thus:
[QUOTE 4452244, member: 45"]Dawdlers are traffic if they want to be. They should have a choice.[/QUOTE]
And on a cycle lane, or on the road, as in the case here, they cannot do that. As I said, please message me if you want to continue discussing this. That's if you can bear to continue without an audience to flex your intellectual muscle in front of. Be polite now, please.
[QUOTE 4452970, member: 45"]...so my point...[/QUOTE]Your 'point' was that people on bicycles are able to choose whether or not they are traffic, thus:
[QUOTE 4452244, member: 45"]Dawdlers are traffic if they want to be. They should have a choice.[/QUOTE]
And on a cycle lane, or on the road, as in the case here, they cannot do that. As I said, please message me if you want to continue discussing this. That's if you can bear to continue without an audience to flex your intellectual muscle in front of. Be polite now, please.
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