Jimmy Doug
If you know what's good for you ...
I don't generally watch these things. But a lot of people see them - helping to incite further aggression from motorists towards cyclists.
if in doubt stop (unless you drive a porsche)
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the pedestrian was stood well back from the edge of the road, exactly as i do when NOT claiming priority (putting on foot on the crossing, not stepping on until cars has stopped)
the driver did nothing wrong, you were not obliged to stop
mustang1
Legendary Member
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- London, UK
I also stop when I see someone near a pedestrian crossing regardless of I'm in car or on bike.
When I'm a pedestrian then I just walk into the zebra crossing and expect (hope) the cats stop.
mustang1
Legendary Member
- Location
- London, UK
Traffic lights are vague too. Red means we suggest you stop but not compulsory. Green means hit the gas before it turns red.
winjim
Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
No law or act required that Porsche to stop at that zebra crossing.
DaveReading
Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
- Location
- Reading, obvs
I agree, you simply have to be assertive. Besides, if a car (or a cat) knocks you down on a zebra crossing, it doesn't count.
summerdays
Cycling in the sun
- Location
- Bristol
I like zebra crossings, it takes a little of the power away from motorists back to pedestrians.
If I'm on my bike I stop at zebra crossings unless it's really late that I spot anyone. But many motorists don't even look to see if there is anyone waiting.
As a pedestrian I march straight up to them and step out, if you don't the traffic won't stop. I'm fit enough and so far good enough at judging the traffic to make it work, and I'm doing it for those who are a lot more wary. Occasionally a car has to stop when it thought it wasn't going to, and I've had ones that have continued through even if I am on it. But I think you should stop if you see someone waiting, rather than having to see them step onto the crossing. I spent too long as a parent with young children who couldn't take those sort of risks.
That said sometimes especially if it is a bike approaching I've been know to delay approaching it so they can cross, or to wave them on if I'm the only pedestrian crossing.
If I'm on my bike I stop at zebra crossings unless it's really late that I spot anyone. But many motorists don't even look to see if there is anyone waiting.
As a pedestrian I march straight up to them and step out, if you don't the traffic won't stop. I'm fit enough and so far good enough at judging the traffic to make it work, and I'm doing it for those who are a lot more wary. Occasionally a car has to stop when it thought it wasn't going to, and I've had ones that have continued through even if I am on it. But I think you should stop if you see someone waiting, rather than having to see them step onto the crossing. I spent too long as a parent with young children who couldn't take those sort of risks.
That said sometimes especially if it is a bike approaching I've been know to delay approaching it so they can cross, or to wave them on if I'm the only pedestrian crossing.
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At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should
Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)
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Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stoppe
At all crossings. When using any type of crossing you should
- always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing
- always cross between the studs or over the zebra markings. Do not cross at the side of the crossing or on the zig-zag lines, as it can be dangerous.
Laws ZPPPCRGD reg 19 & RTRA sect 25(5)
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Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stoppe
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Mr_Kipling
Über Member
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- Berkshire
How is my video going to cause aggression from car drivers?
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Mr_Kipling
Über Member
- Location
- Berkshire
That's fine, I never claimed it was illegal, hence in the post I wrote "Am I missing something" In terms of the knowledge of the crossing laws.
In short, to use a zebra crossing in accordance with the Highway Code requires that someone else be prepared and able to use it otherwise than in accordance with the Highway Code
Simply putting one foot on the crossing is sufficient to claim priority.
I find simply standing at the edge of the kerb is almost always sufficient. if I want to let traffic continue to flow, I stand a metre back - just as the lady did in the op video.
When actually crossing, the vehicles I find I have to dodge are cycles.
This whole thread can be summed up really easily.
Self righteous cyclist is astonished by a motorist that does not stop at a zebra whilst showing a complete disregard to a sign meant for his own mode of transport in his avatar.
Even the pedestrian seemed to consider this a non incident.
Self righteous cyclist is astonished by a motorist that does not stop at a zebra whilst showing a complete disregard to a sign meant for his own mode of transport in his avatar.
Even the pedestrian seemed to consider this a non incident.
