If this is going to be a typical commute ..

[col]

I sense an amount of respect from a group of drivers when I ride assertively. It happened a few times today. Filtering between two lanes of traffic, poking into a gap at red lights. It sounds confrontational, because it intentionally blocks the following car from trying to get past me until I'm ready because it's safe.

But, a good turn of acceleration on the green and a move over to the left shows the driver that I'm not there to get in their way but to make progress. And 90% of the time it results in a decent amount of room given if they do then have the opportunity to pass me.

This is, take note sh4rkybloke, the sensible way I mentioned to you earlier.

 

[col]

Works for me as well. Assertive - not aggressive, and considerate where appropriate. Respect breeds respect.

"but I dont think most of these instances are not down to a vindictive train of thought, but simply mistakes and should be treated as such"
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Col - if that's not being an apologist for dangerous, thoughtless or careless drivers, then I don't know what is. These 'mistakes' are the cause of most of the ksi's on our roads today.

This is all it takes, but some dont show respect , they just cause problems with their ways.
Its not apologist at all, If someone nearly kills me I would probably have some very stern words to say, but I wont go and try and catch someone out and even choreagraph something so it looks bad , when it could have been avoided just so I can vent my anger. Most genuine mistakes by drivers are are normally easy to spot, because they normally go into sorry mode and aknowledge it, and unless Im laid on the road because of it, will aknowledge it back in a sensible way.
We really need to see it from both sides, and those that dont want to or cant are more of a danger to themselves than the cars are.

 

[HLaB]

Not popped in to this argument, but that's what I do..... it takes the cars 100-200 metres to catch/pass me usually..... take your space, move over, and you've usually out accelerated most drivers...(just don't sit in front of a scoobie).........

That's the technique I try to follow too and when somebody does the sensible thing and keeps their car back at a pinch point or something I try to make a more visible effort (standing up pedaling harder); hopefully they appreciate that

 

[boydj]

"but I wont go and try and catch someone out and even choreagraph something so it looks bad"
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That's pretty sad if you really believe that anybody would risk their life to provoke an 'incident', whether for the camera or not.

"Most genuine mistakes by drivers are are normally easy to spot, because they normally go into sorry mode and aknowledge it"
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In my experience, only a minority of drivers recognise their mistakes. More tend to be in denial and express this with aggression, or anger.

 

[col]

"but I wont go and try and catch someone out and even choreagraph something so it looks bad"
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That's pretty sad if you really believe that anybody would risk their life to provoke an 'incident', whether for the camera or not.

"Most genuine mistakes by drivers are are normally easy to spot, because they normally go into sorry mode and aknowledge it"
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In my experience, only a minority of drivers recognise their mistakes. More tend to be in denial and express this with aggression, or anger.

Your right it is sad when I say that,and yes I do believe it. And even sadder when it happens.
Im very lucky it seems, as Iv never had an aggressive reaction from a driver in as long as I can remember. Even when Iv made my presence known, Its been a wave and thumbs up, same from me too.

 

[just jim]

What is "sorry mode"?

I've never seen it for certain. Describe it.

 

[just jim]

A purse of the lips, a shrug, mouthing "why oh why oh why did I do that, I'm an idiot!",
slapping the forehead, a combination?

A salute with the left hand wearing string backed driving glove.

 

[col]

A purse of the lips, a shrug, mouthing "why oh why oh why did I do that, I'm an idiot!",
slapping the forehead, a combination?

A salute with the left hand wearing string backed driving glove.

Mmm so you dont know when someone is being sorry, we are really in trouble.

 

[just jim]

Are we indeed.

Describe your average "sorry mode" for me.

 

[col]

Are we indeed.

Describe your average "sorry mode" for me.

Indeed you are, tell me what you think it might be?

 

[just jim]

O.k, "sorry" expert.

Pulling into the verge, stopping the engine, winding down the window and vomiting with shame.

 

[col]

O.k, "sorry" expert.

Pulling into the verge, stopping the engine, winding down the window and vomiting with shame.

Thats ok kidda. If you need advice on anything else, dont hesitate to ask ok.

 

[just jim]

No thanks.

 

[col]

No thanks.

No problem jim,

 

[goo_mason]

.... but I wont go and try and catch someone out and even choreagraph something so it looks bad , when it could have been avoided just so I can vent my anger.

Col, there's no-one on here who choreographs incidents to get a reaction, despite your insistence. It's a pretty sad state of affairs if you continually delude yourself into thinking that some people value letting off a bit of steam more than they value their lives.

Are you saying that someone with a wife and kids would risk leaving them widowed / fatherless just to get a reaction that they could post on here for our delectation ?